"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Not getting IOIs
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
GQ_Confidence_1
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Natural states are powerful, you should be able to close 90-95% of the time.Micheal Moon said:I agree with GQ confidence, its just about being in a natural state. I had a really good cold approach yesterday and number closed a cute Middle Eastern girl. I was actually not even paying attention when she sat down beside me (on the bus which I take occassionally).
It was only when I got the IOI's that I noticed her. Trying to get eye contact, playing with her hair which I notice girls do subconsciously and they don't even notice it I think. I just escalated it and started the convo from there.
I was just relaxing (and actually felt a little drowsy from some allergy meds I took).
A few months ago, I met this exotic dancer, dominatrix, she sat down next to me at this mall.
In my old state, like highschool or early college (when I didnt know what I was doing), I would have tried to think up lines or routines. Or, "how do I get her to like me". But in a natural state, you're not doing any of that.
You're just a guy, and she can sense that. You wouldn't evade her questions. You wouldn't be incongruent. Many girls arent use to that, so it works to your advantage. Your d*ck and your horniness is transfered to her. You'll come across subtely as more selective, having higher standards.
edger
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They do it because they're not interested. It's actually pretty simple. Most women who are interested, are going to make it AT LEAST somewhat obvious.Jitterbug said:Congrats edger, you've finally realised that women do things that make no sense!
Get some female friends to enlighten you on some of the stupid things they do to NOT make it obvious for guys they have a serious crush on.edger said:They do it because they're not interested. It's actually pretty simple. Most women who are interested, are going to make it AT LEAST somewhat obvious.
jophil28
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Jitter has it.Jitterbug said:Get some female friends to enlighten you on some of the stupid things they do to NOT make it obvious for guys they have a serious crush on.
Many women go to extraordinary lengths to bury their interest in men whom they desperately want to date.
Somehow these women conclude that cold disinterest is an effective strategy in signalling to a man that they want him to approach her.
How smart is that ! Cunning and so skillful, eh ?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Classic scene from Woody Allen's ManhattanJitterbug said:Get some female friends to enlighten you on some of the stupid things they do to NOT make it obvious for guys they have a serious crush on.
Amanda: I've had a crush on you since we met. Couldn't you tell, the way I was ignoring you?
Jerry Falk: Well, there was something compelling about your apathy.
edger
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Yeah, I'm sure these things happen, but in the greater majority of cases, I highly, highly doubt to the greatest degree that this is what's happening. Again, most of the time I don't get any IOI's whatsoever...I highly doubt a lot of these women who aren't giving me buying signals, "are just acting this way because they're really interested, but playing it cool". If anything, it's gotta be a very, very small percentage of women who do this. It's silly and pretty delusional to think otherwise. Sometimes you have to look at the real picture.The Grue said:Classic scene from Woody Allen's Manhattan
Amanda: I've had a crush on you since we met. Couldn't you tell, the way I was ignoring you?
The Muscle Guy
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I find that hard to believe. Your height gives you a tremendous advantage in the game. Tall women 5'10 and up, love men your height. Short women that are insecure with their height love tall guys like you. There's something you are not telling us.
For myself, I look for favorable eye contact:
1. Lingering gaze
2. Eye contact, then looks down
3. Eye contact, then smile
I get favorable eye contact on a regular basis.
The Muscle Guy
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That's your own low self esteem talking.Willis said:i dont think i ever get IOIs...i think its because i dont have goodlooks or somethin...all i get is a regular look...
I used to tell myself I couldn't get women because I was Asian and every girl, even Asian girls wanted white guys.
That was my insecurity talking, not my true self.
Once I got over that bull****, I started to get good with women.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
All i kno is that all my friends who are goodlooking get IOIs all the time.
wanna kno how i kno, because i see the way chicks look at them..i used to get jelous but then i thought "who gives a rats fvck"
and i dont have low-self esteem, know that im not even close to the best looking guy in my state..im jus being real with myself, and i dont get IOIs
and it may have somethin to do with my looks...Who knows, who cares..
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You have low self esteem. Admit it and deal with it, only then will things change.
non of those are my issues..
and i dont have to tell an internet forum im confident...lol
and i really dont care...there are gonna be people out there that look better than you, have more money or whatever...why should i worry about sh!t i cant change such as looks...