North American girls still have no respect for men

[Zarky]

That sucks, the bitter "manosphere" posters have moved from the "Mature" section into this one.

Begone!

 

[comic_relief]

You might be right. But you're also a bit of a whiner, which is a byproduct of your lack of a success with women.

So I don't think that your experience with women is relative to ALL men's experience with women.

Basically, what I'm saying is I get along with North American women just fine. Some suck. Some are cool. And thats just how it is.

couldn't have said it better myself

- comic_relief

 

[SharinganUser]

Now a word about western broads here (britian, canada, america) etc etc

THey cannot get a date to save their lives... I work with a nice canadian lady who is about 200 lbs overweight, 30 y/o, tattoos front and back and complains bitterly that she cannot find a date. So she has turned *drum roll* to lesbianism... yup... tells me up and down that she is bisexual and has sex with lots of girls. Infact unless you are super model hot here you will NOT get a date with a guy. Their political correctness falls on deaf ears and many end up turning gay/fat or going home. All of this 'backpacker' nonsense lasts about a year before they are scurrying back to their holes as fast as their hoofs will carry them.

Its very entertaining and worth the price of admission... so if you are not travelling to date women, you should at least come here to see what happens to a typical western woman when she is surrounded by REGULAR RESPECTFUL eastern attitude/culture.

Totally concur. I met a fat American chick over there that told me she hadn't seen a penis in almost 10 years. She also smoked, drank heavily and was loud and obnoxious, not to mention that she also said that she own several cats. Very low quality.

I've only met 2 foreign girls that didn't seem to have a problem getting dates and they were both quite attractive (one actually is a model).

If you just want an easy lay when you are there, the expat chicks are the easiest.

 

[SharinganUser]

dbl

 

[floydb25]

I wonder exactly which part of the US you guys live in. From my experience, people in the south are more friendly, polite, down to earth, less shallow, etc, compared to their northern counterparts. I'm northern, and even I can see that. The people up north were loud, rude, aggressive, promiscuous, arrogant, obsessed with status, etc. I hear the same thing from a lot of people, and most of the obnoxious people who live down here are from the north. A lot of us decent northerners are migraters, 'cause we couldn't stand it anymore. There were very few quality people up there. Down here its more traditional. Everyone seems to be married, and quite happy. Not a lot of drama or noise. Very few bad people.

Maybe changing location is a good idea, if everyone in your area is ****. I had to do it, or else it was never going to change. You can't associate with quality people if they don't exist, eh? The ratio changed from 80 to 20 when I moved - 80% ****, to 80% quality. Love it; never going back. A lot of migraters I run into say the same thing, and have similar stories and experiences to share.

I moved to SE North Carolina, by the way. Great place. Lots of nice people. But it takes a while to get used to such a drastic change - it doesn't happen overnight.

I'm definitely curious where a lot of you guys - especially the bitter ones - are located in the US. I was the same way before, when I lived up north. Lots of *****es and skanks.

The people on PoF are still garbage, though. Some decent ones on OK Cupid, but they get nabbed up quick.

 

[Iceberg]

I wonder exactly which part of the US you guys live in. From my experience, people in the south are more friendly, polite, down to earth, less shallow, etc, compared to their northern counterparts. I'm northern, and even I can see that. The people up north were loud, rude, aggressive, promiscuous, arrogant, obsessed with status, etc. I hear the same thing from a lot of people, and most of the obnoxious people who live down here are from the north. A lot of us decent northerners are migraters, 'cause we couldn't stand it anymore. There were very few quality people up there. Down here its more traditional. Everyone seems to be married, and quite happy. Not a lot of drama or noise. Very few bad people.

Maybe changing location is a good idea, if everyone in your area is ****. I had to do it, or else it was never going to change. You can't associate with quality people if they don't exist, eh? The ratio changed from 80 to 20 when I moved - 80% ****, to 80% quality. Love it; never going back. A lot of migraters I run into say the same thing, and have similar stories and experiences to share.

I moved to SE North Carolina, by the way. Great place. Lots of nice people. But it takes a while to get used to such a drastic change - it doesn't happen overnight.

I'm definitely curious where a lot of you guys - especially the bitter ones - are located in the US. I was the same way before, when I lived up north. Lots of *****es and skanks.

The people on PoF are still garbage, though. Some decent ones on OK Cupid, but they get nabbed up quick.

I live in NYC, the heart of all this arrogance, promiscuity, aggressiveness and status. And to be honest, I like it. I'm doing well here.

One day, if I find myself a nice, young, educated girl, I could see myself moving to a place like North Carolina to settle down and relax. But as a single guy with a decent career path, I couldn't imagine a better place than one of these northern major cities.

I think what it all comes down to is, "are you having success where you are?" And in some situations, it can be blamed on location. But a lot of the time, it can be blamed on yourself. Like, if you're having SOME success, but not the type you want...then perhaps a change of scenery will help. If you're having zero success, then it's probably something internal that will follow you wherever you go.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Teach English,

Was showing my gf POF for a laugh, very entertaining, I think of the 20 or so profiles we looked at 16 were single mothers with tattoos and fat. So sick and what's funnier is that people in sosuave are defending those broads and telling each other to 'MAN UP'... being a single mother over here is TOTALLY unacceptable and if that happens they keep it SECRET. The one hot girl we saw mentioned that she was an occansional slut in her profile.

I think it should also be totally unacceptable for a man to date a single mother but some people just like to eat garbage.

Lots of single ladies over here guys... I should setup a dating site, my students would kill for a date with a foreign guy. 0 single moms, all look like toothpicks, very stylish and sexy, take good care of themselves, 90% virgins. Girl next door types.

 

[gspshields2]

I know this fat 24 year old girl, she has 3 kids (3 different fathers), and shes always telling me about how so many desperate guys want to get with her.
Amazing!!

How many kids from how many different fathers does it take for a guy to say "NO" to a chick?
She could have 10 kids from 10 different fathers and still have a ton of offers available,
no one thinks this is messed up?


From happierabroad interesting point:

Objection:

Perhaps the problem is you. You have a bad attitude and are whiney and that puts women off.



My response:

Judgmental people are quick to insinuate that the problem must be me. However, there are two primary reasons why the problem can’t just be me.



1) I don’t have the dateless life abroad that I do in America. So if the problem is me, then why don’t I have the same problems overseas? Anyone who sees my Photo Collage will instantly see this: http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Collage.htm

2) In other countries there are not oodles of dateless men like there are in America. There aren’t Pick-Up-Artist/Seduction Gurus marketing seminars and books to guys on how to pick up girls like there are in the US. Normal healthy societies don’t need that. Dating and relationships are more natural overseas, not dysfunctional and F ed up. What does that tell you? This problem is on a large scale in America, not just limited to me and a few “losers”.

 

[cablecow15]

I can bench over 330 pounds on Earth and no girl is ever impressed by that, no one cares, U could workout all day everyday and the girls here won't give a s**t. Sorry about my ranting and complaining, just had to vent.

They aren't supposed to be , that should give you confidence , then in turn that confidence will impress the girls , when you use it properly .

but anything worth having wont come easy , no matter what country you go to

 

[cablecow15]

1) I don’t have the dateless life abroad that I do in America. So if the problem is me, then why don’t I have the same problems overseas? Anyone who sees my Photo Collage will instantly see this: http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Collage.htm

2) In other countries there are not oodles of dateless men like there are in America. There aren’t Pick-Up-Artist/Seduction Gurus marketing seminars and books to guys on how to pick up girls like there are in the US. Normal healthy societies don’t need that. Dating and relationships are more natural overseas, not dysfunctional and F ed up. What does that tell you? This problem is on a large scale in America, not just limited to me and a few “losers”.

It seems that these places you go , make it pretty obvious you have money.
could it be possible that these women are aware of this seeing as where your from is most likely a conversation topic?

there's a lot of explanations for your situation , but you seem convinced that you've found the answer

 

[gspshields2]

It seems that these places you go , make it pretty obvious you have money.
could it be possible that these women are aware of this seeing as where your from is most likely a conversation topic?

there's a lot of explanations for your situation , but you seem convinced that you've found the answer

I been overseas before and met a upper-middle class girl, she probably had more money than me and refused to let me pay the bill, we split it on dinner.

 

[Gray The Prince]

Gspshields, this is exactly what somebody should've given you a while ago...


http://moneysavingmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/211_kleenex.jpg

 

[gspshields2]

Today I will try some day game and report back my progress
==============================================

I will just go up to HB6 and above and start chatting with them randomly.

Lets see where that gets me.

I know overseas it got me dates and I was only there for a week.

No game involved, I just went up to girls, introduced myself and
got their number and setup a date, it was real simple.

Would anyone like to see me video tape the interactions and put them on youtube?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

2) In other countries there are not oodles of dateless men like there are in America. There aren’t Pick-Up-Artist/Seduction Gurus marketing seminars and books to guys on how to pick up girls like there are in the US. Normal healthy societies don’t need that. Dating and relationships are more natural overseas, not dysfunctional and F ed up. What does that tell you? This problem is on a large scale in America, not just limited to me and a few “losers”.

All you guys bashing gspshields2 or others like him need to absorb the above point. It is completely true. PUA/seduction and seminars are a very WESTERN phenomenon. It doesn't exist in most non-westernized countries. Online dating is also a very WESTERN idea. It is virtually non-existent in many other non-westernized countries.

I spoke to my cousin from the middle east about online dating in north america. She laughed. She didn't even understand what I was talking about. The concept was so foreign to her.

Speed dating. Very common in westernized countries. Virtually alien to the rest of the world.

I could go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.....

There is a big problem in general with the western dating scene. It is not whining on anyone's part. It is fact. It is science.

 

[floydb25]

All you guys bashing gspshields2 or others like him need to absorb the above point. It is completely true. PUA/seduction and seminars are a very WESTERN phenomenon. It doesn't exist in most non-westernized countries. Online dating is also a very WESTERN idea. It is virtually non-existent in many other non-westernized countries.

I spoke to my cousin from the middle east about online dating in north america. She laughed. She didn't even understand what I was talking about. The concept was so foreign to her.

Speed dating. Very common in westernized countries. Virtually alien to the rest of the world.

I could go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.....

There is a big problem in general with the western dating scene. It is not whining on anyone's part. It is fact. It is science.

It's also common sense. Those countries aren't as developed or advanced as we are, so they stick to traditional roles. My family is from the Middle East, so I know what you're talking about, and why it is that way. Americans are spoiled and shallow - with all the money, easy access, shortcuts, media, etc. This turns them into snobs. Everything is accessible; people want more and more.

You don't hear people complaining about their hunger, diseases, serious life struggles, etc. Hell no. They complain about not being able to find a hot person, how they can't get laid, aren't cool or popular enough, the drama between their friends and dates, etc. That's the kind of spoiled lifestyle we have over here. And that's why you have all this stupid ****.

This applies to a lot of guys on here, too. "Why didn't she call back? My life is ruined... Nooooo!!!" Those aren't real problems, and is very comparable to the female mindset. "Why can't I get everything I want; choose whoever I want; use people as I please; have everyone wait around hand and foot? My life is so unfair; everyone is an *******!!!" -- as they're not paying for anything they own, living with someone else (and taking them for granted), etc. It's just stupid, shallow, society / peer-based **** that people make out to be a big deal. Gossip, drama, complaining... All about pointless ****.

Just the way it is. We're so spoiled that we complain about game, even. I mean, come on...

This is also why you shouldn't sympathize with people who aren't genuinely struggling. Having your heart-broken due to being shallow and chasing after trophies, or complaining about your peers making fun of you, or whatever dumb **** people complain about = not real problems. It's the only problems they have, within their lifestyle. Now its a big deal. Blah.

 

[floydb25]

I live in NYC, the heart of all this arrogance, promiscuity, aggressiveness and status. And to be honest, I like it. I'm doing well here.

One day, if I find myself a nice, young, educated girl, I could see myself moving to a place like North Carolina to settle down and relax. But as a single guy with a decent career path, I couldn't imagine a better place than one of these northern major cities.

I think what it all comes down to is, "are you having success where you are?" And in some situations, it can be blamed on location. But a lot of the time, it can be blamed on yourself. Like, if you're having SOME success, but not the type you want...then perhaps a change of scenery will help. If you're having zero success, then it's probably something internal that will follow you wherever you go.

Well, I'm talking about people who hate everything about the women from their area. Not necessarily in terms of being successful. I was successful in my hometown, but the women were still ****. So, if its that bad, maybe they should change areas.

Part of me thinks they don't want to change, however. They want to prove to themselves and others that they CAN land a hot skank, or whatever. Too bad she's still going to be ****, and they're still going to be complaining about her - only from a different perspective from before.

The chase is always better than the catch; most people who act as the way guys on here describe are usually ****. But, they believe that they must be something special to not want them, act like snobby *****es, play games, etc. Yeah, no. They're usually insane and retarded. Hence, acting this way. But its more exciting and challenging to them, or something.

People in their 30s should not be acting like this, or chasing after retards - only to complain about them non-stop. Getting a life would probably help.

In your case, yeah, it works. You like it. But some of these perma-whiners need to make some serious changes - typically starting with themselves - or its never going to change. If you don't like girls who chase after *******s, for instance - stop pursuing them. It's not that hard. They're usually crazy, anyway. Why lower yourself by becoming an ******* to attract some crazy ***** - only so you can complain about her every day, and hate the fact that she's attracted to *******s? WTF?

And they say women are whiney and illogical. Get it together, fellas.

 

[Trump]

It's also common sense. Those countries aren't as developed or advanced as we are, so they stick to traditional roles. My family is from the Middle East, so I know what you're talking about, and why it is that way. Americans are spoiled and shallow - with all the money, easy access, shortcuts, media, etc. This turns them into snobs. Everything is accessible; people want more and more.

Thats the price paid for modernization, westernization, freedom and democratic values. Guys love their freedom, porn, alcohol, and drugs, but when they want to get married and start a family, then they start to love middle eastern values.

Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

 

[Burroughs]

Thats the price paid for modernization, westernization, freedom and democratic values. Guys love their freedom, porn, alcohol, and drugs, but when they want to get married and start a family, then they start to love middle eastern values.

Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

You can HAVE cake and eat it too...there is no 'price' to modernization that is the excuse government think tanks and ad agencies give for societal breakdown

Go to India, China, even Japan..modern high rises, internet, sleek hospitals, fast cars....but the traditional roles of how men and women should behave towards each other have been retained.

we could have all the amenities of a modern world and nurture kind, feminine women who know their place and know how to please a man....they exist in other countries where you can also buy porsches and ferraris...america is too far down the road of feminism for a reversal most likely..it is up to wise men to move if they have to.....leaving a nation of bloated fatties and whimpering AFCs to die of sadness

..

 

[yungpadawan]

Actually, if you look at the Asian countries that are modernizing, its been my experience that their values are more westernized, not the other way around. There is always a price. You might not see it but theres no free lunch.

 

[Solomon]

Well, I'm talking about people who hate everything about the women from their area. Not necessarily in terms of being successful. I was successful in my hometown, but the women were still ****. So, if its that bad, maybe they should change areas.

Part of me thinks they don't want to change, however. They want to prove to themselves and others that they CAN land a hot skank, or whatever. Too bad she's still going to be ****, and they're still going to be complaining about her - only from a different perspective from before.

The chase is always better than the catch; most people who act as the way guys on here describe are usually ****. But, they believe that they must be something special to not want them, act like snobby *****es, play games, etc. Yeah, no. They're usually insane and retarded. Hence, acting this way. But its more exciting and challenging to them, or something.

People in their 30s should not be acting like this, or chasing after retards - only to complain about them non-stop. Getting a life would probably help.

In your case, yeah, it works. You like it. But some of these perma-whiners need to make some serious changes - typically starting with themselves - or its never going to change. If you don't like girls who chase after *******s, for instance - stop pursuing them. It's not that hard. They're usually crazy, anyway. Why lower yourself by becoming an ******* to attract some crazy ***** - only so you can complain about her every day, and hate the fact that she's attracted to *******s? WTF?

And they say women are whiney and illogical. Get it together, fellas.

This guy is killing the thread

Someone call the cornoer to dipose of the carnage :rockon: