resilient
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
NoFap: Full month of June. You in!?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
narcissist
Master Don Juan
Roll call: who's still in? @skinnyguy, @Toni (from my other thread), @finality, @narcissist
Day12 complete.
Process is going well. I'm more relaxed. I don't look LTR hungry/thirsty as I was over a month ago. I still notice that I'm revealing too much backstory about personal matters in set, so I want to curb that down pat and talk less when I'm nervous (if any DJs (maybe @deesade) have any tips with that in approaching a set and handling nerves/talking less I would appreciate any input). I want to be confident enough to be quiet and give the other person the chance to talk more about themselves.
I'm generally more upbeat... higher energy in set. I make sure to befriend obstacles and include them in the interaction. I like this part because they almost have a confused look on their faces when I re-engage them and include them in the set. They hesitate to respond, which is an interesting observation (makes me wonder what they're thinking, though I'm trying not to care about that either...).
My eye contact has been improving. I pick up on more subtle social cues and body language that I typically missed before.
I have one chica that initiates texts with a question for my input often from one of my social spheres. She seems like the shy/introverted type which would be a first for me in a while since I typically attract the dominant/aggressive types (I wonder if this is frame balance...or...representative of improvement...::head scratch::...hmm...).
Im still in brother day 11 complete.
narcissist
Master Don Juan
Okay today has been the hardest day (pun intended). This gorgeous woman is working with me and I just got this little Asian girls number who was wearing to tightest and shortest shorts that hugged her ass. And I NEED TO FVCK A GIRL RIGHT NOW. hahaha gonna be a long one today.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Cultivate an attitude of gratitude....
Be grateful for what you do have and take the focus off what you don't have/what other people have....
narcissist
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YES BOYS! DAY 15!! LETS GOOOOOO.
(my longest streak is 16 days.) TIME TO BEAT IT.
I feel amazing.
(my longest streak is 16 days.) TIME TO BEAT IT.
I feel amazing.
narcissist
Master Don Juan
Also I got 7 numbers this week, and did about 15-20 approaches. But I have to jack that number way up. But I feel mad motivated to get pvssy--because it is my only way to release.
TheMonkeyKing
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Yo. What happened with that GF you had?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Milano
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Holy fuk bois 15 days and we still doing this ****!
Having so much energy that im shaking. Thinking of giving creampies so much that I probably came on too strong on the latest date, but thats ok. This day ending with me going to a rumanian hore, talking to her granny pimp in a shady apartment filled with smoke and bad odor while the hore was fuking a costumer in another room I was like WTF am I doing here and left.
The energy level really is higher when I dont masturbate, I love this. I dont need that much sleep either, its like free testosterone. Like others in here, the thought of giving creampies is very high and is frustrating. Still, I am not depressed and are taking action all the time, just need to manage the creampie-thoughts better.
Having so much energy that im shaking. Thinking of giving creampies so much that I probably came on too strong on the latest date, but thats ok. This day ending with me going to a rumanian hore, talking to her granny pimp in a shady apartment filled with smoke and bad odor while the hore was fuking a costumer in another room I was like WTF am I doing here and left.
The energy level really is higher when I dont masturbate, I love this. I dont need that much sleep either, its like free testosterone. Like others in here, the thought of giving creampies is very high and is frustrating. Still, I am not depressed and are taking action all the time, just need to manage the creampie-thoughts better.
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resilient
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@narcissist, nice approaching bro. Half #closes for those total approaches is a good closing ratio.
@Milano, that's funny sh!t about your date report. I've never been through an experience like that. If you catch your thoughts going into that creampie mode, stand up and do ten jumping jacks. I heard that works for anxiety, so it may work for creampie thoughts when you feel compelled to edge some.
Just got a text this morning of a potential plate asking me to go dancing with her this Saturday night. Haven't replied yet... (it's late in the week to ask me, typically weekend dates are reserved for a main plate, so I'm thinking carefully about this one...).
Glad to see no relapses so far.
@Milano, that's funny sh!t about your date report. I've never been through an experience like that. If you catch your thoughts going into that creampie mode, stand up and do ten jumping jacks. I heard that works for anxiety, so it may work for creampie thoughts when you feel compelled to edge some.
Just got a text this morning of a potential plate asking me to go dancing with her this Saturday night. Haven't replied yet... (it's late in the week to ask me, typically weekend dates are reserved for a main plate, so I'm thinking carefully about this one...).
Glad to see no relapses so far.
narcissist
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I broke up with her like 2 weeks ago. She was a great girlfriend, no arguments or complaining or anything like that, I just wasn't really feeling it anymore. The spark was gone for me.
narcissist
Master Don Juan
Day 17 boys! I have officially beat my all time record for NoFap!!!! Fvck yes. And I have a date tonight with a gorgeous asian who figure skates (most delicious a$$ I have seen on an asian bean)!!! today is great gentlemen.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Milano
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Great! I honestly dont know what my record is but I know I have done 14 days before and now its 17 so it might be for me too. The amazing thing about making it this far is that I dont think much about masturbating anymore, I only think about fuking. Its like my mind has gone back to default.
Put all that masculine energy into your strong eye contact and body language with a nice james bond smirk, then you give her that 17 days creampie she deserves! Can I get a HAIL YEAH
How about we continue this great journey in july by creating another thread then.
narcissist
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Just shaved my pubs and balls. It feels great, but for some reason I always get more h0rny when i shave em bare. I am ready as fvck to see this asian hottie.
I love the progress bro! good job. Lets stick this one out for the entire month of June then you will for sure know that its a new record. And i am 100% down to go into july as well! I want to do 365, but I am going to take it 1 month at a time.
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Props, @narcissist, and @Milano. I'm struggling with an online course that keeps my thoughts off fap. Still in this challenge though...
Still in this challenge though...narcissist
Master Don Juan
You can do it man!!! Stay strong! Go out and approach!Props, @narcissist, and @Milano. I'm struggling with an online course that keeps my thoughts off fap.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.