To use it to keep him an orbiter. She knows it is easy peasy validationWhy is she so hellbent on keeping a relationship with your son?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
To use it to keep him an orbiter. She knows it is easy peasy validationWhy is she so hellbent on keeping a relationship with your son?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
This. ^^This would be my reply to anything and everything she sent me:
(Absolutely nothing)
WRONG ANSWER!7 months together, kids involved. Met my whole family, working together, she was my boss. 6x a week together. Felt like a realy family.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I think I'm past this point. Too much chasing, begging, any attempts, invitations on my part will be declined and put me in a weak position. I think I'm gonna avoid her for now at the kids exchange. Create some mystery and not show up, cos she thinks I'm here waiting for this opportunity to see her.agree with @dude99 mostly
you could try to friend-zone her hard and simply start telling her about others girls/dates etc
ask her opinion and stuff, like a FRIEND
considering her reaction to the sleep-over... this will feed her hamster HARD and you might WIN.
choose some opportune time, invite HER to a sleep-over (use the kids as excuse)
cant hurt
Even if he does this and it works.......we all know this dude is going to repeat his beta behavior because he is 100% beta. Hell he already reverted back to acting how he did that got him dumped in the first place. It would be over in days because he would act the exact same way.agree with @dude99 mostly
you could try to friend-zone her hard and simply start telling her about others girls/dates etc
ask her opinion and stuff, like a FRIEND
considering her reaction to the sleep-over... this will feed her hamster HARD and you might WIN.
choose some opportune time, invite HER to a sleep-over (use the kids as excuse)
cant hurt
Nah man, I learnt with my mistakes, not falling for it a 3rd time. She breadcrumbed me with a text and said no to meet up to see my reaction. I failed. She even called to show she was jealous and other crap... Not falling for it again.Even if he does this and it works.......we all know this dude is going to repeat his beta behavior because he is 100% beta. Hell he already reverted back to acting how he did that got him dumped in the first place. It would be over in days because he would act the exact same way.
Sorry but I could probably pull this off but he cant. I would never try this with a woman because once its over I am smart enough to go out and find 2 or 3 more chicks than to sift through the garbage can trying to make a failed relationship work.....regardless of why it failed.
Yeah she seems like a diamond in the rough. I wish we could all be lucky and find someone as elegant and feminine as her with all that interest she has in you.She will be back man to test again. Come on now, this girl blocked me everywhere. Said would call police and still reached out. She is not scared to approach. It's not a few msgs that closed the case. If she truly wanted to close this for good she wouldn't want my kid around.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
No bro. You have no more shots. Its over. She sees you are still the same person she left. Move on with your life she already has.Well I will have another shot..she will reach out in 2 weeks when my son is here. I can play it right now.
Yeah it's probably over. If I'm lucky I can fk her. But probably not even that.No bro. You have no more shots. Its over. She sees you are still the same person she left. Move on with your life she already has.
None of that happened. Stop trolling.Yeah it's probably done. I still want to handle myself well from now on in my interactions with her about the kids. I became too needy. When I met her I was the bad boy. Im bald, full of tats. I saw her in the bar, she was in out group of friends. I went up to her and said just this "hi, I would like to fk u tonight, wanna come to my place." she said no. I said OK it's your loss. And I left. 2 days later she found me in Facebook and sent me a friend request. I sent her 2 or 3 texts. Asked her for a drink near her place, she said she was sick in bed all Weekend, I said cool ill make u tea and massage all weekend. She was like omg ok come Over. .. We had our first date at her place. She dropped a fwb she had immediately to be with me. Those were the days... Lolololol
I can't believe how I went from day 1 to now only in 7 months.
LOL I swear on my son broNone of that happened. Stop trolling.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Why are you even agreeing to any of this? Is that his sister?No one answered my question. During the kid exchange should I be present or not? Example if I drive him to her place should I stay in the car or go to her doorstep.? Or if she comes to pick him up, should I bring him downstairs or just send my kid alone? Or I can say I'm at work.
female styled chat from 1990s, ^^7 months together, kids involved. Met my whole family, working together, she was my boss. 6x a week together. Felt like a realy family.
They are close friends. They play games online and are video calling at same time hours a day om the weekends.Why are you even agreeing to any of this? Is that his sister?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.