I showed up early to the date. I brought her a box of heart shaped chocolates and flowers. I bought her dinner. Then at the end of the meal I asked her for sex and she refused even a kiss and left and called me a jerk. I'm such a nice guy. How can she call me a jerk?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Nice guy gets fvcked again
- Thread starter Eggysmith
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Tictac
Banned
You know that everything you did was wrong and nearly guaranteed to deliver you to exactly where it did.
But you did it all anyway.
This is masochism. Or it's a joke.
But you did it all anyway.
This is masochism. Or it's a joke.
salinechow
Senior Don Juan
Not real. It just cant be real.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Life is unfair deal with it. You need to improve both your inner game and outer game.
You need to consider it as a muscle as going to the gym. If you work on it enough you will get it. Look at Owen Cook he used to be the biggest nerd possible and is now considered one of the best pickup artists in existence.
Read the DJ Bible for inner game.
Read Roosh - Bang/Correy Wayne's book/Watch RSD youtube videos religiously.
RSD Julien Pimp and The Blueprint By Tyler Durden are also excellent you can buy them or download if you look hard enough.
Get plenty of experience at the same time.
You need to consider it as a muscle as going to the gym. If you work on it enough you will get it. Look at Owen Cook he used to be the biggest nerd possible and is now considered one of the best pickup artists in existence.
Read the DJ Bible for inner game.
Read Roosh - Bang/Correy Wayne's book/Watch RSD youtube videos religiously.
RSD Julien Pimp and The Blueprint By Tyler Durden are also excellent you can buy them or download if you look hard enough.
Get plenty of experience at the same time.
LuckyStrike88
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If this is a troll, good one. Textbook on how to fail miserably.
Biggest mistake was to ask her for sex specifically, firstly you tried to buy her. Then you ask for sex communicating that you only did all those things to get her into bed, also saying that you are not good enough on your own so you need to buy her.
If you do "nice" things in order to get something in return you aren't in fact a nice guy, but a weak jerk like she said.
Biggest mistake was to ask her for sex specifically, firstly you tried to buy her. Then you ask for sex communicating that you only did all those things to get her into bed, also saying that you are not good enough on your own so you need to buy her.
If you do "nice" things in order to get something in return you aren't in fact a nice guy, but a weak jerk like she said.
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Bokanovsky
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What kind of chocolates did you get? You should have bought an expensive Godiva set. Otherwise, she might think that she's selling herself too cheap...Eggysmith said:
KingBeef
Master Don Juan
:crackup: :crackup:LMFAO said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
It's Ninja.
sylvester the cat
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I once asked a girl for sex. She had just come round to dump me. I had an awful thought of her telling all my peers that we dated three months without me making moves to jump her bones once. She turned down my request of course. I then had another awful thought of her telling all my peers how I asked for sex.
Then I walked her home.
Then I walked her home.
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ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
The things I would say to you Ninja would get me banned......
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Heart-shaped boxes kill relationships! Rectangular boxes get mad pvssy, son. What? Russell Stover for the win. FTW
LuckyStrike88
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Girls don't like nice guys especially not frustrated ones, bad vibes bro.Eggysmith said:
Talking about fair, she does not owe you anything.
Februathyst
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Girls do like nice guys.LuckyStrike88 said:
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.