I showed up early to the date. I brought her a box of heart shaped chocolates and flowers. I bought her dinner. Then at the end of the meal I asked her for sex and she refused even a kiss and left and called me a jerk. I'm such a nice guy. How can she call me a jerk?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Nice guy gets fvcked again
- Thread starter Eggysmith
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Tictac
Banned
You know that everything you did was wrong and nearly guaranteed to deliver you to exactly where it did.
But you did it all anyway.
This is masochism. Or it's a joke.
But you did it all anyway.
This is masochism. Or it's a joke.
salinechow
Senior Don Juan
Not real. It just cant be real.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Life is unfair deal with it. You need to improve both your inner game and outer game.
You need to consider it as a muscle as going to the gym. If you work on it enough you will get it. Look at Owen Cook he used to be the biggest nerd possible and is now considered one of the best pickup artists in existence.
Read the DJ Bible for inner game.
Read Roosh - Bang/Correy Wayne's book/Watch RSD youtube videos religiously.
RSD Julien Pimp and The Blueprint By Tyler Durden are also excellent you can buy them or download if you look hard enough.
Get plenty of experience at the same time.
You need to consider it as a muscle as going to the gym. If you work on it enough you will get it. Look at Owen Cook he used to be the biggest nerd possible and is now considered one of the best pickup artists in existence.
Read the DJ Bible for inner game.
Read Roosh - Bang/Correy Wayne's book/Watch RSD youtube videos religiously.
RSD Julien Pimp and The Blueprint By Tyler Durden are also excellent you can buy them or download if you look hard enough.
Get plenty of experience at the same time.
LuckyStrike88
Don Juan
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If this is a troll, good one. Textbook on how to fail miserably.
Biggest mistake was to ask her for sex specifically, firstly you tried to buy her. Then you ask for sex communicating that you only did all those things to get her into bed, also saying that you are not good enough on your own so you need to buy her.
If you do "nice" things in order to get something in return you aren't in fact a nice guy, but a weak jerk like she said.
Biggest mistake was to ask her for sex specifically, firstly you tried to buy her. Then you ask for sex communicating that you only did all those things to get her into bed, also saying that you are not good enough on your own so you need to buy her.
If you do "nice" things in order to get something in return you aren't in fact a nice guy, but a weak jerk like she said.
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Bokanovsky
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What kind of chocolates did you get? You should have bought an expensive Godiva set. Otherwise, she might think that she's selling herself too cheap...Eggysmith said:
KingBeef
Master Don Juan
:crackup: :crackup:LMFAO said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
It's Ninja.
sylvester the cat
Master Don Juan
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I once asked a girl for sex. She had just come round to dump me. I had an awful thought of her telling all my peers that we dated three months without me making moves to jump her bones once. She turned down my request of course. I then had another awful thought of her telling all my peers how I asked for sex.
Then I walked her home.
Then I walked her home.
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ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
The things I would say to you Ninja would get me banned......
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Heart-shaped boxes kill relationships! Rectangular boxes get mad pvssy, son. What? Russell Stover for the win. FTW
LuckyStrike88
Don Juan
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Girls don't like nice guys especially not frustrated ones, bad vibes bro.Eggysmith said:
Talking about fair, she does not owe you anything.
Februathyst
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Girls do like nice guys.LuckyStrike88 said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.