"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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New Plate: No Sex till Marraige

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Energizer said:
I'd move on if you I was. The challenge is tempting, but unless you marry her you won't deflower her. Better cut your loses and move on to someone equally as hot and much easier.
I hate this mentality that some people have where if a Girl makes the smalest slip up they should NEXT her. Seriously, it's like a guy talks about how he's met a great girl and is going out, but she's playing hard to get and some people just shout NEXT. wtf. If you next a girl everytime she does something not according to you, you're going to end up with no one. There's a difference between cutting your losses in a relationship that is going nowhere and just giving up because you couldn't get sex straight away.

Keep going mate, I bet you'll have her horny and raring to go in no time. Just make her feel horny and soon enough she won't be able to resist.

Next time you are fooling around, do what you did before, and everytime she resists, assure her that you won't have sex if she's not ready, but still carry on undressing her and ****. Eventually she'll be too horny to resist.
 
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I can next girls, because I attract enough of them and I only want one thing from them (hint: It's between their legs). If you are looking for a relationship, then chud up and deal with women and their sh*it. I, for one cannot be bothered wasting my time with ****teasers who hide behind religion or any other highly strung woman.
 

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Thanks Captain J, appreciate the positive here.

Luke Skywalker: Thanks for that, for me it doesnt matter the number of girls ive bedded or how easy it is to wake up to a new chic everyday, its about finding quality over quantity. I like quality and i think this one is.

Real Supreme: yeh you've got me madd as fvk, my focus is ferocious! lol..no further comments from you?

For the rest of ya'll: Ive been blessed with the ability to make something good of my life, ive had success career wise and with my extra curricular activities. Women ive had plenty and i know i can pull a chic into bed with relative ease. I dont even drink nor do i need her drunk to pull. Ive had 3some's aplenty and all that dirty stuff..
BUT! what i REALLY look for is a challenge and i look for quality. if i find a chic, who IS quality, while she looks hot, she appreciates my ethics and never comes in the way of my friends or work. that always has a plus point over the s3x.
yes i know i may sound stupid saying im happy to give up s3x with a girl if she a good catch in every other way. but think about it, i have 2 other girls im seeing that im getting it from, who arent as worthy for my time as this chic.

theyre happy being my 2nd choice, and they both 8's looks wise and 5 character wise. but they give good head..

i can tell the chic in question has a wild side in bed, because she has that s3xual tension when we're makin out, she loves to rip stuff off n get ruff. and thats always a good thing because that means its only time before that breaks her wall from her end..

but to be honest, correct me if im wrong: why do i feel like s3x is not my prime objective with this girl?? is that normal??
 

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you like how she matches you and brings out what in you more than you lke the feeling of her snatch..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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slickaz said:
but to be honest, correct me if im wrong: why do i feel like s3x is not my prime objective with this girl?? is that normal??
IMHO it's the way it should be if you get a good girl.
 

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slickaz said:
but to be honest, correct me if im wrong: why do i feel like s3x is not my prime objective with this girl?? is that normal??
Because she got you all bamboozled.

She is playing you and knows exectly what she wants. You may be thinking that you are getting the upper hand but this girl also has got tricks up her sleves. You are trying to program her to give you the poon and she is trying to program you to marry her and then you get the poon. The question is who is going to surrender first? it seems that both of you are currently in the same position, 2 scorpions in a bottle....

I believe that she is adamant about her convictions. If she surrender's first and gives you her poon, then she will want you to propose to her and if she doesn't get what she wants and thinks you played her, all hell might break loose. You may think that this girl will be cool and all after you take her "virginity" but she won't.
 

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slickaz said:
Thanks Captain J, appreciate the positive here.

Luke Skywalker: Thanks for that, for me it doesnt matter the number of girls ive bedded or how easy it is to wake up to a new chic everyday, its about finding quality over quantity. I like quality and i think this one is.

Real Supreme: yeh you've got me madd as fvk, my focus is ferocious! lol..no further comments from you?

For the rest of ya'll: Ive been blessed with the ability to make something good of my life, ive had success career wise and with my extra curricular activities. Women ive had plenty and i know i can pull a chic into bed with relative ease. I dont even drink nor do i need her drunk to pull. Ive had 3some's aplenty and all that dirty stuff..
BUT! what i REALLY look for is a challenge and i look for quality. if i find a chic, who IS quality, while she looks hot, she appreciates my ethics and never comes in the way of my friends or work. that always has a plus point over the s3x.
yes i know i may sound stupid saying im happy to give up s3x with a girl if she a good catch in every other way. but think about it, i have 2 other girls im seeing that im getting it from, who arent as worthy for my time as this chic.

theyre happy being my 2nd choice, and they both 8's looks wise and 5 character wise. but they give good head..

i can tell the chic in question has a wild side in bed, because she has that s3xual tension when we're makin out, she loves to rip stuff off n get ruff. and thats always a good thing because that means its only time before that breaks her wall from her end..

but to be honest, correct me if im wrong: why do i feel like s3x is not my prime objective with this girl?? is that normal??
This is just really stupid. Are you going to marry this girl? No? Then what the **** is the purpose of this thread.
 

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TheRealSupreme said:
This should read



Basically this female sold you a bill of goods. She spit her contract and you accepted it like a young huckle buck facinated by her looks.

WOW.

And why are you on this site again?

To the rest of the fellas here:

Let this guy serve as an example to you to never sell your balls over a females looks. Dont accept her contract make her accept yours or have the balls to walk away.

This guy sold his balls down the drain and everything that a DJ stands for over some looks that are only skin deep. And the personality thing? That lasts as long as they ain't married and then she will change.

She already cowed him and put him down in HER place so why should she even respect him after she gets what she wants.

I guarantee sex will be almost nonexistant and it will suck arse.

Who wants a life like that just cause the girl has good looks????

Who would even sell their future happiness over some looks? Probably a lot of you guys as this dude might do.
i really disagree with this kinda mindset.
 

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if this is what u need go for it, but ill b a bit cautious, this chick sounded really kool and innocent and everything followed a pattern then i heard "or till we move in together" and didn't make sense. Maybe she is saying untill we have a very solid great relationship, but the fact she didn't put it like that didn't make sense. Dude i can't really say though because i wasn't their and maybe i am wrong. But when u have to make any big decisions, really think with the brain and not the man down stairs lol.

Hope u make the right choice dude, if not its kool, just learn from it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey

Dude, that must be killing you. You like the girl, she seems to like you ...then she fools around in bed, teasing . I'd say you better start on talking to her about atheism and the *greater sex life value* that comes with it.

Unless, of course she's a true believer. Now that might be my *I need to know more* side but I'd definitely make her talk more about her religious beliefs to see how far she's into it. That'd be a ***** to find out you got played. And as you know woman are good at playing games.

Good luck, hope for the best,
 

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slickaz said:
Thanks Captain J, appreciate the positive here.

Luke Skywalker: Thanks for that, for me it doesnt matter the number of girls ive bedded or how easy it is to wake up to a new chic everyday, its about finding quality over quantity. I like quality and i think this one is.

Real Supreme: yeh you've got me madd as fvk, my focus is ferocious! lol..no further comments from you?

For the rest of ya'll: Ive been blessed with the ability to make something good of my life, ive had success career wise and with my extra curricular activities. Women ive had plenty and i know i can pull a chic into bed with relative ease. I dont even drink nor do i need her drunk to pull. Ive had 3some's aplenty and all that dirty stuff..
BUT! what i REALLY look for is a challenge and i look for quality. if i find a chic, who IS quality, while she looks hot, she appreciates my ethics and never comes in the way of my friends or work. that always has a plus point over the s3x.
yes i know i may sound stupid saying im happy to give up s3x with a girl if she a good catch in every other way. but think about it, i have 2 other girls im seeing that im getting it from, who arent as worthy for my time as this chic.

theyre happy being my 2nd choice, and they both 8's looks wise and 5 character wise. but they give good head..

i can tell the chic in question has a wild side in bed, because she has that s3xual tension when we're makin out, she loves to rip stuff off n get ruff. and thats always a good thing because that means its only time before that breaks her wall from her end..

but to be honest, correct me if im wrong: why do i feel like s3x is not my prime objective with this girl?? is that normal??
How does one go about getting 3some's a plenty anyway? It's hard enough to get one.
 

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BTW....5 days at relaxation center.......I'll put my money on you gettin that azz my brother.
 

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i know this is not gonna end well for her.
coz im gonna take it..
and then she's not gonna be marrying me..

shes gonna b mad as fvk.

this is a challenge im gonna go get it...
 
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First off, the sex thing is her way of exercising control over you. Any woman knows that the key to most men's hearts is her p*ssy. And by stressing over her p*ssy, you are giving her power over you. That needs to end. Here's why:

Lets say you know end up being together for a long time or possibly end up marrying one day. Then what? Let's say she's mad at you or get's into an argument. Yup, you guessed it. No sex.



Here is something that I like about your girl:

slickaz said:
I appreciate what she does because:
1. She cooks for me
2. she cleans for me
3. she buys me expensive stuff
4. she puts in time and effort into looking hot for me, eg shell ask me what im wearing that night so she can wear something to match, and she'll ask me what id like her to wear..ive never had that before..
5. she spends alot of money on me, she's very happy to pay for our date, buy me drinks etc. and its amazing to get that from a HB10.

the con: she doesnt wanna have sex uptil now

BUT!!
here is my solution. that im working towards.
in 15 days, she's booked a 5 day retreat for me and her at an expensive relaxation center. i think given 5 days with massages and oils i should be able to get past her wall..
Sounds like 2 possibilities. Either she's getting the d*ck elsewhere (meaning someone else is actually bringing out the lusty side of your girl) , OR she feels that you will not want her as much AFTER you get her p*ssy. You have two choices:

1. Show her that you don't care about sex and that it's readily available to you elsewhere, or
2. Cut her off


The way you achieve #1. is to take her to a "target rich" environment of single women, like a fashion show, a yoga/dance class, or even a mall department store. When you go, look your absolute best. My friend, women are HIGHLY competitive. If your girl is as FINE as you claim she is, you will be getting stares left and right and your girl WILL notice that you are in demand. Just act normally. In the meantime, after messing around with her suddenly stop, turn on Sportscenter and ask her about her day. In other words act as if sex is something you could EASILY do without. Your nonchalant nature toward sex plus your desirability will wear on her and she will bang the sh*t out of you.

#2. Is simple. If sex is that important to you, you should never have to beg, plead, or wait. You're a man. Get what you want or move on. I know it sounds cold, but women want men at the end of the day. What if you wait all this time, only to find that her sex is horrible?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Sounds like 2 possibilities. Either she's getting the d*ck elsewhere (meaning someone else is actually bringing out the lusty side of your girl) , OR she feels that you will not want her as much AFTER you get her p*ssy. You have two choices

^ your royal flyness nailed it, i think it will be number 2 dude. if u move in with her she will probablly giv u sex like once and then thats all ur getting because she now knows she has u and dosn't need to use sex anymore.
 

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Im gonna chime in here.

A little over a year ago, my regular watering hole hired this 22 year old college girl from Vegas. She worked there for about three months, and I still see her.

Anyway, this chick is STUNNING. Huge brown eyes, perfect tits, brunette, just gorgeous. I'd give her a 9.9, except her frame is a little too small, almost like a little girl. Anyway, I tried to game her for a while, but she kept getting wierd whenever I'd mention anything sexual. I finally called her out, and asked her what her problem is, and she threw the V card. I dont even think it was religious, but no sex til marriage. I didnt believe her, and neither did anyone else at first. As I got to know her more, I finally started to believe her. I totally stopped gaming her. Im not up for that kind of challenge. This girls personality is really great also. She's super cool, smart, level headed. She drinks a little bit, no drugs, smokes. I dont know what the hell she's doing in my social circle, to tell you the truth.

My friend (who gets plenty of action) starts dating her. I dont know if he was getting some on the side or not. Over six months later, I over heard him saying he was gonna break up with her cuz "nothing will ever change." I asked, "you still havent..?" he said "nope," as he serves a drink to some hb8 who obviously wants him.

Anyway, two months ago, the celebrated their one year anniversary. Rumor has it, that she finally caved, and they seem totally happy. If there were a girl worth waiting for, this would be the chick. She's actually, the only chick I consider quality, out of any girl I know. For all I know, she might have turned into a super freak in bed.

I dont know if this story has any relevance to your situation, but if the chick
is super-rad, MAYBE, it might be worth the wait. Its a hell of a gamble. I wouldnt wati myself though.

On the other side of the coin, my old buddy went born again Christain, and married some chick without fvcking her. Within a year, she had other boyfriends on the side, cheating right and left. He went back to his 'old ways' real quick. Long story short: He forgave her like a retard, things were fine for a year, the one day she was gone... Along with his funiture, and 40,000 from his bank account.

For whatever that story's worth.
 

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update here:

ok so ive been talking to her, but avoiding giving her too much attention.

everytime she calls though id talk to her and drop sexual ineundos.

i keep telling her about how hot she looked when she has the fire in her eyes, or how supple her bre4sts felt, and how amazing it felt grabbing her ass.

at first when i used to say it she used to be real shy and say
Pls Stop!! while blushing..

then she used to laugh.
today she was just straight up and said "i cant wait for you to do it again.."

then i was in a meeting and i get call at my office.
i said hello and straight away she goes
"baby...i miss you..i miss you're hands on my 4ss..i feel safe in your arms..can you come see me now..i need you"

now i had two options, one i could leave work stating some emergency and go get it..or 2 i could make her wait.

my work is more important to me than s3x.sorry its the truth.
so i said "daamn girl, im worried now, would i have to pick up pieces of my clothes when you're done with me?"
she: "maybe....seriously..come!!"
me: "baby i cant come right now, but i do want you to hold that inside and bring it out when you see me..just think about the times that my hands were on you..and how i rubbed you all over...**going into some detail**"
she" huni plz stop..ur getting me all worked up..finish up work today and go home k, i wanna meet you there.."
me: k baby, as long as you promise not to rip my suit...bye
her: we'll see how i feel...bye baby.

:) :) :) :)
 

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I've known so many girls like this, being brought up in a fundamentalist church. It's all bull****. She's probably not even a virgin.
 

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So what ever happened with this girl? You give up, or hit it?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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