New Plate: No Sex till Marraige

[slickaz]

so ive been seeing this girl.
shes pretty religious, BUT she is gorgeous, attractive personality and all round nice chic. id rate her at a 9 looks wise and a 9 character wise.

she has a BANGING body,
D size cups and a 40inch well shaped ass.

i played my cards right and got her back at my crib after our 2nd date.
we were kissing, it took her ages to kiss me because she's never really kissed before.she's 22 and stayed away from guys.

anyway turns out she's a freak inside a lil, and i was able to say the right things and strip her down to her panties...SLOWLY..
(it took me 2 hours to get to her panties..) even then she wouldnt let me look at her breasts but i was nibbling and kissin em..etc.

anyway eventually i got her to walk around my house in her panties.

BUT
She would not have s3x..i tried really hard, she says she wants to wait till marraige OR till we moved in together..
WTF!!
how do you deal with this?!???!?!?!?!?

she is sooo hott and i wanna break it but how to work around this?

im thinkin when i get her down n4ked again, ill have to put temptation on her mind with lotsa slow motion and then POW!..lol

HELP

 

[IPalindromeI]

I could see this happening after working on her for a while, but to have someone who claims to be that religious and inexperienced let someone get that far on a second date?

I could be completely off the mark, and I tend to be a skeptical and cynical person, but I'd be making damned sure you aren't being fed some 'purity' line in order to hook a ring through your nose.

 

[loving]

keep spinning till youve reached your threshold or get some. you seem to know what youre doing

also, religious isnt a bad thing, except to those people who dont understand what it is

"well thats just typical of a religious nut trying to spread the word"

well thats just typical of someone who has read some scripture maybe, not understood it, and debunked one of the largest parts of our modern culture based on the merit that "it hasnt worked for me" or "everyone else who claims to understand religion but really doesnt and is just thinking of it as some literal words with no meanings is an idiot so thats how life must be"

hmm

 

[TheRealSupreme]

New Plate: No Sex till Marraige

This should read

No sex till Marriage = NEXT!

Basically this female sold you a bill of goods. She spit her contract and you accepted it like a young huckle buck facinated by her looks.

WOW.

And why are you on this site again?

To the rest of the fellas here:

Let this guy serve as an example to you to never sell your balls over a females looks. Dont accept her contract make her accept yours or have the balls to walk away.

This guy sold his balls down the drain and everything that a DJ stands for over some looks that are only skin deep. And the personality thing? That lasts as long as they ain't married and then she will change.

She already cowed him and put him down in HER place so why should she even respect him after she gets what she wants.

I guarantee sex will be almost nonexistant and it will suck arse.

Who wants a life like that just cause the girl has good looks????

Who would even sell their future happiness over some looks? Probably a lot of you guys as this dude might do.

 

[trv26]

Let this guy serve as an example to you to never sell your balls over a females looks. Dont accept her contract make her accept yours or have the balls to walk away.

This guy sold his balls down the drain and everything that a DJ stands for over some looks that are only skin deep. And the personality thing? That lasts as long as they ain't married and then she will change.

He's only had two dates right? Who knows, he migh have sex with her on the next date. How is that selling his balls?

 

[Darth]

But if these are really her beliefs, it would be wrong to try to talk her into breaking them....

 

[amoka]

I was with you until she said "or when we live together". She is playing you buddy.

 

[JDA70]

or when we live together

Hehehe she want to have all the control and power.

 

[Ollie]

There's a substance called alcohol. Procure some and have her drink a little bit.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

But if these are really her beliefs, it would be wrong to try to talk her into breaking them....

It seems she just wanted to fool around. She did seem to let him go pretty far. Some people just want to fool around, but not to actually lose their virginity.

Her beliefs show a weakness. She says she will wait until she moves in with him and compromised on the marriage part. That's a big deal. She just said that she's commit fornication or pre-maritial sex if she moves in with him. She already has made a condition to sin. That means she's on a slipper-slope. She can be further persuaded to lower the threshold of that condition, she may not even know what her true boundaries are.

The OP has some sort of charm on her. I'd like to see how this thread gets updated.

I don't believe this girl will stick to her beliefs if she really likes the OP, and if my level of cynicm in such girls is correct, then I would probably see this confirmed on the update of this thread with the OP's conquest.

 

[AAAgent]

read the Art of War, alot of these things can be applied to tons of real life situations.

Your are fighting a war man, and war takes patience. The war is not always won in one day. Be patient and take your time to break down and learn their weak points and let them get comfortable with you.

Once a girl feels comfortable with you, they'll let you do anything.
I've noticed things sometimes turn sour when you push too hard.

 

[Drewskie]

It seems she just wanted to fool around. She did seem to let him go pretty far. Some people just want to fool around, but not to actually lose their virginity.

Her beliefs show a weakness. She says she will wait until she moves in with him and compromised on the marriage part. That's a big deal. She just said that she's commit fornication or pre-maritial sex if she moves in with him. She already has made a condition to sin. That means she's on a slipper-slope. She can be further persuaded to lower the threshold of that condition, she may not even know what her true boundaries are.

The OP has some sort of charm on her. I'd like to see how this thread gets updated.

I don't believe this girl will stick to her beliefs if she really likes the OP, and if my level of cynicm in such girls is correct, then I would probably see this confirmed on the update of this thread with the OP's conquest.

I'm with you, I'd like to see how he handles this. If she's a 9 and a 9 personality wise, maybe LTR?? Also, is she a virgin? Or lived with someone before, and he beat it up everyday? Also, like others have said, she's that religious, yet struttin around in the panties on the 2nd date?? Although, I have heard of many a situation where girls keep the notion of no sex til marriage and get to a point 9usually19-25) when really just can't help how f-in horny they are. So he may get it, but still an interesting situation none-the-less. As far as how to go about actually getting in her, a GOOD massage has never steered me wrong. There's also the liquid panty dropper that may help, like ollie suggested.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Although, I have heard of many a situation where girls keep the notion of no sex til marriage and get to a point 9usually19-25) when really just can't help how f-in horny they are.

That is correct, but I also think societal pressure to lose virginity could also be a subconcious play here too. Also I think that even though there is lots of pressure on guys to lose their virginity by a certain age, even girls have their own pressure to lose it and once they past that age, they too feel they are missing out. I think that this sex before marriage belief is taken seriously by those during their teenage years, but once you start reaching that age, then it's more like no sex until you meet the right guy who can press the right buttons, or some other compromised condition.

These types of women are just hors when they meet the right guy. If this girl thinks the OP is his boyfriend and the OP uses the 'sexual compatability before a relationship' line then he practically has her. These girls are easy -- I wonder what sort of charm this OP has to have gotten that far with this girl. If she's really attractive, she must have rejected allot of guys if she really never kissed anyone before.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I feel a connection with this thread, probably some 'thought-acid'. I'm reviewing all of Slickaz's threads and profile. Very rarely I do this unless something strikes me about a thread. I want to see if this guy is really for real or if he's asking for trivial advice as a means of just boasting about his conquests (whether real or imaginary). There was another guy on here that did this - believe his name was stand or something like that.

But seriously, if he's for real, I'm going to study his game under a microscope from whatever post or thread he has written. This is going to be a case study.

Seems he has other conquests with religious virgins. Just recently he wrote a thread about Musilim girl and wanted to know if he should have used protection. I wish I could just go on with my normal simple life and just pretend never saw this thread -- maybe I'll just forget about this and be oblivious to women as I normally am - I'm comfortable the way I am now -- I don't have to read anything that's going to egg me on -- but this thread is doing just that. I have to see what is the secret of this guy's game.

 

[Raikojo17]

She's full of sh1t

she ain't got no beliefs. atleast not strong ones if she told you that she's willing to let go of them if you move in with her

lol wtf.

 

[TheRealSupreme]

He's only had two dates right? Who knows, he migh have sex with her on the next date. How is that selling his balls?

Actually I think he will get it and I am hoping to make him more motivated to get past that bull of no sex before marriage.

I want him hot and angry and motivated so that he can bone her and then blast out how good it was...

He already got her down to the panties. It's only a matter of time before she gives in.

 

[slickaz]

ok so heres the full story.
Yes she is religious. yes she is a virgin.
she has had one "bf" that was picked by her mum from a friends family.
she says she's never let him go more than kissing.

i dont have a reason to not believe her because she certainly needs more help with knowing a mans anatomy..trust me, i had to guide her hands.

it took me half hour to get her to show me she can kiss me.
i finally ended up using the "oh ur blushing, does that mean ur worried if id like ur kissin or not? is that why i see you leanin in and then out again? u kno if you wanna kiss me, i wont judge you on what kinda kisser you are.."
she laughed at it, and then gave me a peck on the lips..n blushed..
me: "ok thats unfair you caught me offguard while i was playin wit yo hair..that aint right..do it again!!"
she: no.blushing.
me: fine, then i can only rate your kissin on that peck you gave me!
she leans in n gave me a proper kiss...n to be honest, it kinda sucked to start of with, but i slowed her down, talking in between kissin n giving her positive feedback, like "im....**kissin**..imp..**kissin**...pressed"
and the kissin was 2 hours long atleast because we kissed through a tv movie..
then she climbed on top of me..and i could see that fire in her eyes like she wanted to rip my clothes off..
i unclipped her bra and she was surprised and held on to the cups tight, still kissin me..
i was caught off here because i thought she's in the mood and i could slip the bra off..but i noticed her reaction and continued kissing her taking her attention away from the bra..
and then said "hehehe, ur bra likes me..i only used 2 fingers.."
she laughed and said "uve been practicing huh?"
me: not on anything as pretty as you!
she blushed and kissed me n just as she came in i said put yo hands around me..this was so she'd take her hands of the cups..
she did...i slid the bra off slowly..
didnt give any attn to her breasts just then..but slowly about 10 mins thru more kissing when i felt her tension calm down..hands on the b00bs.

she liked it, i put my lips on em..and gave it my best shot...starting slowly, she seemed to really like it because she was biting her lips and got tense all over...she had her hands on my head, i guess as a security thing to pull me away if she felt uncomfy, i pulled her hands away slowly and kissed em, i switched between her lips, neck, and nipples..
i tried to look at her breasts from 2 feet away and she wouldnt let me...at first..
then i talked more..and she was ok with it.
she wouldnt let me grab her ass...at first..then i talked some more..and then she likes me grabbin her ass..
at this point i was surprised that i got this far..

plz note: usually i can get in bed with a chic in less than 2 hours if i know i can get it..

Heres the update:
She wants to be in a LTR. she has said, that her belief is no s3x before marriage, but! if she moves in with a guy, itll be with the guy she's going to marry very soon and at that stage she will be happy to hand it over..

now here is the problem, character wise and looks wise some will say shes a 10, she gets hit on all the time and she pushes it away, i know this because i know her "guy friends", i got intro'd to her thru these guys and i know that theyve been playing "friends" with her because they wanna bed her.
she's always deleting guys of her phone for hitting on her.
but with me, she approached me with being in a relationship.

I appreciate what she does because:
1. She cooks for me
2. she cleans for me
3. she buys me expensive stuff
4. she puts in time and effort into looking hot for me, eg shell ask me what im wearing that night so she can wear something to match, and she'll ask me what id like her to wear..ive never had that before..
5. she spends alot of money on me, she's very happy to pay for our date, buy me drinks etc. and its amazing to get that from a HB10.

the con: she doesnt wanna have sex uptil now

BUT!!
here is my solution. that im working towards.
in 15 days, she's booked a 5 day retreat for me and her at an expensive relaxation center. i think given 5 days with massages and oils i should be able to get past her wall..

ive realized that taking it slow, steady, stern and confident will get me the physical side that i want from her.

for example: today we were at the mall, and she was hesitant to hold my hand to start with, but she told me, she wants to hold it but is scared that people will notice.
so i held her hand, stopped her from walking and said "when ur with me, i want you to fear nothing, i wont judge you, and if anyone judges you, you let me know ill sort them out.."
she smiled, and held my hand, that then went to snuggling up to me.
and then i tried kissing her at the mall, she couldnt, so i talked her into it again..reassured positively, and she did, then she wouldnt let me go!..lol

gotta play this carefully and ill get ass.

to be honest, i like this. i like the chase, it feels good. im honestly tired of girls giving it up easily. and i think for this gooooood meat i can be careful and work for it..

so if ya'll is mocking me for it, then ya'll shouldnt. coz finally i have some faith in women, that they do have some integrity and would like to meet a guy that really will work to get them..
she does happily tell her friends and everyone that "im his..."...good feeling when a hot chic says that about herself..lol
either that or im being played...oh well.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

This guy seems like he is for real. He is a drummer at the church. I'm not sure what type of church he is going to or what his convictions are, but I have sized up his game.

Basically, this guy has his looks (after all he was a personal trainer) and his 'authority' going for him. One PUA guru, John Alanis (I bought e-books from him a few years ago and asked for a refund because I thought it was nonsence or inapplicable with me), deals mainly with this concept for attracting girls. Being a drummer at the church or visibly involved leads to women noticing him as being in charge there. I'm sure that is the same in some other areas in his life so he's a natural chick magnet.

Other aspects of authority concept could include his job position, ability to dance, being a DJ, or doing other things that puts him into that sort of position. This is his game -- it's all sized up. For those wanting more information again, google John Alanis. Normally I do not recommend PUA gurus I've asked for refunds from - but this guru goes into details that pretty much sizes this guys game.

Kudos to that, but I've already decided that it's difficult to pull off a game like that unless you really feel authentic...like there is something in me that wishes to remain anonymous or modest without having anyone look up to me so I wont dissapoint them...but this guy has mastered that art and appears to be successful.

***********

Back to the regulary scheduled program.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I typically look elsewhere if I don't get laid by the second or third date. But you got pretty far for a third date, and she sounds like a girl who would make you happy.

Would you marry her? That is what she wants. Obviously don't tell her the answer to that question, but think about it. Marriage is really just glorified cohabitation. Having kids is a much bigger issue. Some women think that kids and marriage have to go together - in that case marriage becomes a giant deal, because having children is giant deal. Kids are forever; most marriages are not.

If she does not want babies and you could see yourself living with her...then go for it. I am guessing that in about three more dates, she will at least be blowing you, so that will make the no-sex thing less of a big deal.

Guys tend to think that all women are hos, but at the same time get mad if a girl does not give them sex. If it bothers you that a girl might have been with other guys, and it does bother most guys, then it should make sense to be patient with a girl like this.

 

[Energizer]

I'd move on if you I was. The challenge is tempting, but unless you marry her you won't deflower her. Better cut your loses and move on to someone equally as hot and much easier.