"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So I go to this coffee shop every so often, and theres this one waitress who I like, I really dont know if she likes me, shes looked at me and smiled a few times, i duno im not a mind reader.

So my question is...what is the best way to approach this? I have to make a move or somethin

Thanks lol
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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penkitten

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you should chat with her to see if she might be interested
 

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im no DJ im pretty outgoing but when it comes to approaching women im as shy as they come...

how would u consider approaching her when shes workin? lol. tough times.
 

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back in the day when i waited tables, guys would just start a conversation.
some asked if i was married or if i had a boyfriend.
others would just start chatting about movies or concerts or random stuff.
once you start some sort of conversation, you will find out things about her.

"did you see xxx movie yet"
"no my boyfriend is taking me friday"
then you know she has one....

or "i have been dying to get tickets for xxx"
her"i want to go to but i just broke up with my boyfriend and haven't found anyone else to go with."

i really think chatting with strangers is easy.
they don't know everything about you, so you can really say anything.
if you don't like how the talk went, you never have to go back to that place . lol its good to practice communication skills.
 

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so i take it ur a woman...say ur back in ur waiting days saying somethin like "ok what can i get you"

and i start ranting about a random movie and asking if youve seen it...thats gotta be strange doesnt it?

bare with me :crackup:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bond21 said:
So I go to this coffee shop every so often, and theres this one waitress who I like, I really dont know if she likes me, shes looked at me and smiled a few times, i duno im not a mind reader.

So my question is...what is the best way to approach this? I have to make a move or somethin

Thanks lol
How about spinning plates instead of obsessing over one random waitress who smiled at you? How about that?
 

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Max Power said:
How about spinning plates instead of obsessing over one random waitress who smiled at you? How about that?
youre very helpful...:kick:
 

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I'm telling you the truth.

The main purpose of this site isn't about how to deal with mini issues, but how to be a real man. If you come in here and post that a waitress at a coffee shop smiled at you and you want advice on what to do, my advice is you have to get a life. (No offence). Guess what? It's their job to smile.

I had 10 waitresses smile at me tonight. I had one of those 10 waitresses unbuttom my shirt to see my nipples and give me Mardi Gras beads. I had another with heavy kino. I had another ask me 100 questions. Should I start 10 separate threads on what to do? They're hired guns. They're going to be more friendly than the aveage chick on the street. My advice is don't read too much into it, but if you must go back and talk to her and bust her balls. If she likes "Friends," say "You do? That show sucks." Etc.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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