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AJ84
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Yeah she's a teenager so unless you're trying to pair her up with a much older man.....
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Need help for my little sister
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
zekko
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Not sure why you would ask this question here since this forum is largely anti-commitment, and thinks that treating a woman well is the kiss of death.
wifehunter
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I would be the exception.
Off the books, marriage minded. I don't sleep around. Would treat a GOOD woman very well.
She HAS to be a real Christian, and GOLD, or I'm not interested.
No time for BS-ers, and time wasters.
Doctor Europeo
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The second one.
In her mind, getting married is a priority. So I figure that if she is going to get marry I might as well try to help her meet an awesome dude.
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AJ84
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That's very sweet. Do you know guys around her age? Or is she looking for an older guy?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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The main thing is help her understand her value. She has high value according to what you have said. She should be able to sort for a good man without sex.
Then the man she chooses benefits from her sexual exclusivity. That has very high value.
Then the man she chooses benefits from her sexual exclusivity. That has very high value.
wifehunter
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VERY HIGH VALUE!!!
SmooveMooves
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Date her yourself.
pancakepalace
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Not such thing as high value at 19.
wifehunter
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Are you telling her to ride the c0ck carousel?
pancakepalace
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Doesn't matter how they are raised. A 19 year old doesn't have much in the mind. Unless she's a one in a million genius, she won't have much to say that's interesting.
For men no, for women?? Women are on average their prettiest at age 19. Every man wants a woman who is 20. 21 is their most selfish and when they usually get fat. 22 is the peak SMV for a woman. Three short years from now she'll be jaded, chunky, tattooed and over the hill, with HPV if she's not careful.
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wifehunter
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You could say the same thing about 97% of women. Most are boring and have no lives.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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I know a lot of interesting women. Cultivated, artists, who studied hard, read good books, etc... I know I won't be able to talk about kierkegaard with a 19 year old, but I can have interesting conversations with 30+. I guess it's a personal preference. I'd rather date girls with a masters of PHD than 19 year olds.
Doctor Europeo
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Yeah but I personally have find it hard to find girls with masters/phds that are easy on the eyes. Most I know, I couldn´t bang them if I got paid for it; and the other few are unavailable.
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I don't. Tons of beautiful intelligent women out there.
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Not at all. People need to be happy being alone, and focus on their careers and having fun with friends and family. Too many people jump into relationships, then get too invested to leave. They eventually get pregnant, married or both. If she wants to go screw around, that is her prerogative, but there is no reason to do that.
logicallefty
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I did this years ago. Ya big time sausage fest. Women either married or 400+ lbs, but plenty of men.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.