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AJ84
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Yeah she's a teenager so unless you're trying to pair her up with a much older man.....
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
zekko
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Not sure why you would ask this question here since this forum is largely anti-commitment, and thinks that treating a woman well is the kiss of death.
wifehunter
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I would be the exception.
Off the books, marriage minded. I don't sleep around. Would treat a GOOD woman very well.
She HAS to be a real Christian, and GOLD, or I'm not interested.
No time for BS-ers, and time wasters.
Doctor Europeo
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The second one.
In her mind, getting married is a priority. So I figure that if she is going to get marry I might as well try to help her meet an awesome dude.
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AJ84
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That's very sweet. Do you know guys around her age? Or is she looking for an older guy?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
BeExcellent
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The main thing is help her understand her value. She has high value according to what you have said. She should be able to sort for a good man without sex.
Then the man she chooses benefits from her sexual exclusivity. That has very high value.
Then the man she chooses benefits from her sexual exclusivity. That has very high value.
wifehunter
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VERY HIGH VALUE!!!
SmooveMooves
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Date her yourself.
pancakepalace
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Not such thing as high value at 19.
wifehunter
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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Are you telling her to ride the c0ck carousel?
pancakepalace
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Doesn't matter how they are raised. A 19 year old doesn't have much in the mind. Unless she's a one in a million genius, she won't have much to say that's interesting.
For men no, for women?? Women are on average their prettiest at age 19. Every man wants a woman who is 20. 21 is their most selfish and when they usually get fat. 22 is the peak SMV for a woman. Three short years from now she'll be jaded, chunky, tattooed and over the hill, with HPV if she's not careful.
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wifehunter
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You could say the same thing about 97% of women. Most are boring and have no lives.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
pancakepalace
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I know a lot of interesting women. Cultivated, artists, who studied hard, read good books, etc... I know I won't be able to talk about kierkegaard with a 19 year old, but I can have interesting conversations with 30+. I guess it's a personal preference. I'd rather date girls with a masters of PHD than 19 year olds.
Doctor Europeo
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Yeah but I personally have find it hard to find girls with masters/phds that are easy on the eyes. Most I know, I couldn´t bang them if I got paid for it; and the other few are unavailable.
pancakepalace
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I don't. Tons of beautiful intelligent women out there.
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Not at all. People need to be happy being alone, and focus on their careers and having fun with friends and family. Too many people jump into relationships, then get too invested to leave. They eventually get pregnant, married or both. If she wants to go screw around, that is her prerogative, but there is no reason to do that.
logicallefty
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I did this years ago. Ya big time sausage fest. Women either married or 400+ lbs, but plenty of men.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.