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AJ84
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Yeah she's a teenager so unless you're trying to pair her up with a much older man.....
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
zekko
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Not sure why you would ask this question here since this forum is largely anti-commitment, and thinks that treating a woman well is the kiss of death.
wifehunter
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I would be the exception.
Off the books, marriage minded. I don't sleep around. Would treat a GOOD woman very well.
She HAS to be a real Christian, and GOLD, or I'm not interested.
No time for BS-ers, and time wasters.
Doctor Europeo
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The second one.
In her mind, getting married is a priority. So I figure that if she is going to get marry I might as well try to help her meet an awesome dude.
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AJ84
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That's very sweet. Do you know guys around her age? Or is she looking for an older guy?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
BeExcellent
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The main thing is help her understand her value. She has high value according to what you have said. She should be able to sort for a good man without sex.
Then the man she chooses benefits from her sexual exclusivity. That has very high value.
Then the man she chooses benefits from her sexual exclusivity. That has very high value.
wifehunter
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VERY HIGH VALUE!!!
SmooveMooves
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Date her yourself.
pancakepalace
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Not such thing as high value at 19.
wifehunter
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
zekko
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Are you telling her to ride the c0ck carousel?
pancakepalace
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Doesn't matter how they are raised. A 19 year old doesn't have much in the mind. Unless she's a one in a million genius, she won't have much to say that's interesting.
For men no, for women?? Women are on average their prettiest at age 19. Every man wants a woman who is 20. 21 is their most selfish and when they usually get fat. 22 is the peak SMV for a woman. Three short years from now she'll be jaded, chunky, tattooed and over the hill, with HPV if she's not careful.
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wifehunter
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You could say the same thing about 97% of women. Most are boring and have no lives.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
pancakepalace
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I know a lot of interesting women. Cultivated, artists, who studied hard, read good books, etc... I know I won't be able to talk about kierkegaard with a 19 year old, but I can have interesting conversations with 30+. I guess it's a personal preference. I'd rather date girls with a masters of PHD than 19 year olds.
Doctor Europeo
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Yeah but I personally have find it hard to find girls with masters/phds that are easy on the eyes. Most I know, I couldn´t bang them if I got paid for it; and the other few are unavailable.
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I don't. Tons of beautiful intelligent women out there.
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Not at all. People need to be happy being alone, and focus on their careers and having fun with friends and family. Too many people jump into relationships, then get too invested to leave. They eventually get pregnant, married or both. If she wants to go screw around, that is her prerogative, but there is no reason to do that.
logicallefty
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I did this years ago. Ya big time sausage fest. Women either married or 400+ lbs, but plenty of men.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.