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So this is an interesting observation I've made throughout my years of dating: I've gotten laid way more times when I was able to do something that made me stand out. For example, when I played soccer, I got a lot of attention from females as I was pretty good. As soon as I stopped playing, the attention reduced. Quite a bit. And I'm not an ugly dude. Does this mean women's natural attraction dropped for me? I wouldn't say so. I just became another decent looking guy who blends in with the rest. So my suggestion for you is find something that separates you from everyone else. Whether it's playing guitar, playing a sport, leading a prayer group. Anything really, where you can show you're DIFFERENT.
 
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I've seen a lot of you all discussing this topic. I think it's pretty important and deserves it's own thread.

So we all know that it's easier when women have a natural attraction towards you. They don't string you along, they don't play their little attention/validation games, and they make it very easy for you to sleep with them.

But is that to say you should only deal with women who have a high attraction level towards you? I've seen two different perspectives on it, from Roosh V and AMS.

Roosh V:
"Don’t waste your time trying to create attraction. Instead, find a girl who is already naturally attracted to you."

But AMS basically says:
"You guys only want to fvck women who have an initial high interest in you? If so, go ahead and unpledge your $5, cause you're wasting your time. The whole point of Alpha Male Strategies is to fvck b!tches who are ON THE FENCE. Anyone can fvck a girl with high interest. If you're only limiting yourself to high interest b!tches, you're leaving a whole lot of @ss on the table. I'd say about 60% of the women you meet are going to have an initial low interest. Learn to fvck that girl that sees you as a 5, or 6."

This goes into what I was saying about raising interest. I want to know how to raise a woman's interest. I think I agree with perspective B a bit more.... But I'll need to keep improving/getting in the field until I can get it there.

But I wanted to know, what do you all think?
You're trying to reinvent the wheel. Use some common sense. Good looking, high status guys (wealthy) are always going to come out on top.

How much time do you need to decide if a woman is hot or at least f-ckable? That's how long it takes for a woman to size you up. A split second.
 
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As an example, I'm currently taking a night class and there are at least 3 married women who are throwing themselves at me in front of their husbands. They're all older (and married) so I'm not interested but they are are all down to f-ck.

Most of the younger women are fat, so this class kinda sucks for finding hot women lol.

I'm already overloaded with options so this class isn't necessary for me to find ass, but the point is being elite in attractiveness makes things so much easier. There aren't many girls who are "on the fence": they are just attracted but trying to fight their attraction.
 
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As an example, I'm currently taking a night class and there are at least 3 married women who are throwing themselves at me in front of their husbands. They're all older (and married) so I'm not interested but they are are all down to f-ck.

Most of the younger women are fat, so this class kinda sucks for finding hot women lol.

I'm already overloaded with options so this class isn't necessary for me to find ass, but the point is being elite in attractiveness makes things so much easier. There aren't many girls who are "on the fence": they are just attracted but trying to fight their attraction.
Yeah, you do have to get your foot in the door through attractiveness. Then your Game gets you the ass.

The more attractive you are to the woman, the less Game you need
 

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The above remarks only makes sense to nerds but it is wholly incorrect and grossly misleading.

The only constant attraction for women is power, nothing else matters.

If u r in a setting like a nightclub, then the one with the most power is good looking men.

If u r in a setting that's political, then the most attractive men there are those that holds significant sway. They hold the most power.

If u r in a sports setting, then the most attractive men will be those who has glory in the sports arena. They too hold the most power.

If u r in a gang prone area or setting, then the men with the most authority within that sphere will be the most attractive - the powerful.

If u r in a club that plays live music, then the most attractive men there will be those who sings and play the instruments.

You hv power, you will hv women, the more larger ur sphere of influence, the more bigger the attraction.

You can be the most handsome man in the sports arena and if you are not a player but just a fan then u r nothing compared to the ugliest sportsman.
 

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I think it's different for young girls.
They tend to only care about looks. Just the way they're conditioned nowadays I guess.
Epstein (and many other rich guys like him) was powerful but he could only get laid with 18 year olds by paying them money lol. They weren't remotely attracted to his ugly old ass lol. My brother was in a fairly successful band (locally) and it didn't help him get girls. They certainly weren't throwing themselves at him! It's hard to argue against that reddit post tbh. Certainly it's the same as what I see/experience.
I do think it's probably true of old women, though. Power and masculinity is attractive to them
 

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Anyone that knows me will tell you that I'm a believer in Doc Love. Everything that is out there now from Roosh-V, AMS, Cory Wayne... et. al. ad infinitum comes from Doc Love. But Doc Love is in a business, and what sells is dudes trying to fix 'relationships' I think it's a waste of time pursuing relationships with women, now Doc Love will say correctly that men should not chase relationships, but he knows men want this... I disagree... I think you can not pretend you don't want relationships, you have to ACTUALLY not care about relationships, PERIOD. Another place where I disagree with the great one is what he calls 'interest level'. He sets interest at 50% before you have a chance. IMO Attraction and interest are two different things.

There really is nothing you can do about attraction, you either have what a woman wants or you don't. Being 'attractive' is a long process which involves self improvement. It means you are being the best version of yourself. I'm 52, there isn't a goddamn thing I can do about that. If I come across a younger woman that doesn't like older guys, that is the end of that. However, I can be the best damn 52 year old possible by not smoking, drinking to excess, working out, eating right, wearing clothes that fit.... None of this guarantees success with any particular woman, but it does make me more attractive to women in general that are not bothered by my age.

Interest is a function of behavior. And interest can negate attraction. She can be attracted to you, but if you behave like a chick, that attraction will not help you. The higher her attraction to you the more you can get away with. But this is like milk, the longer it goes on, the more it sours, and eventually weak behavior will end things. You drive up interest in NORMAL women, by behaving like a man, exerting self-control, confidently pursuing what you want, and being a little selfish which will trigger in a chick then need to do stuff to get and keep your attention.

Another place where Doc Love is wrong, is he's operating from a framework that was applicable in 80s and 90s but today, mostly because of social media, OLD, and increased communication... it is IMPOSSIBLE for a man to be mysterious... so this doesn't help you anymore. You go out with a chick and 15 minutes after you drop her off, she's on her smart phone and there are literally hundreds of women feeding her information on you. If you date a lot, she will connect with someone you dated in the past... and everything your ex knows... she will know. She can run background checks on you and she will know just about every fvcking thing there is to know about you instantly... she will know your age, and problems you might have had in the court system, you net income... everything. Human females have evolved to screen men out... when you date a chick, she is looking for reason NOT to like you. OLD gives her immediate validation, so validating a woman doesn't help you anymore... and it also gives her LOTS of perceived options.

SOOOO what does this mean today. Women are picker, they really are, trust me I've dated women through 3 decades, going on 4 and things are harder now than in the 80s and 90s. Guys that are just now starting to date... man.... you have no fvcking idea how easy it was in the 80s and 90s. If I met a chick and she was giving my high indicators of attraction, I could bang her that night if that's what I wanted... Now... well... it's almost impossible to make something happen right away. To be honest, I can not say for certain if it's just the culture we are in now, or my age, but I hear this a lot from men in their 30s that are not successful either... when I was in my 30s, hooking up with a chick was as easy as just going out and trying.
 

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The above remarks only makes sense to nerds but it is wholly incorrect and grossly misleading.

The only constant attraction for women is power, nothing else matters.

If u r in a setting like a nightclub, then the one with the most power is good looking men.

If u r in a setting that's political, then the most attractive men there are those that holds significant sway. They hold the most power.

If u r in a sports setting, then the most attractive men will be those who has glory in the sports arena. They too hold the most power.

If u r in a gang prone area or setting, then the men with the most authority within that sphere will be the most attractive - the powerful.

If u r in a club that plays live music, then the most attractive men there will be those who sings and play the instruments.

You hv power, you will hv women, the more larger ur sphere of influence, the more bigger the attraction.

You can be the most handsome man in the sports arena and if you are not a player but just a fan then u r nothing compared to the ugliest sportsman.
A good example of this would be the table-hopping magician at a restaurant. The girl can be totally wrapped up in conversation with her date, when suddenly the magician comes around and completely steels her attention and turns the guy she’s with into an instant doofus.

The magician has her squealing with delight, displaying (to her) a powerful suspension of physical laws and humor. The guy, who a minute ago was her focus of attention, is now an impotent onlooker while the magician is displaying power and humor.
 
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I'm not leaving any pvssy on the table am I?
You really can't f uck every girl you meet, without looking desperate, or like a rapist. If you want to maintain any self-respect, you need to be able to walk away from a beautiful naked woman, lying in bed, begging you to come join her, because you've got s hit to do. Always leave something "on the table."
 

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You are taking the fat girls approach to game.

Fat girls be like “Yeah losing weight, dieting, self love - all that stuff is great and all but can’t I just sexually escalate and try to turn guys on by insinuating that I am very good at bl0wjobs?”

There is a place for fat chicks who are good with bl0wjobs, and that is desperate guys.

No matter how good a fat chick becomes at giving bl0wjobs, she is still a fat chick.

Every now and then you’ll get lucky with a desperate woman - just enough to keep you going.

But you’ll never attract effortless abundance from really hot chicks that’s aren’t completely desperate.

Instead of focusing too much on your verbal game (the Male equivalent of a low end fat chick trying to develop better blow job skills), you should focus on your value such as career, physical fitness, and social status/connections and social influence.

That’s where most of a man’s value is at.

Don’t be surprised if a few months from now, you find yourself banging a bunch of fat chicks. You are lowering yourself to their wavelength. The two of you will find each other and validate one another.

Instead of desperately being on the prowl constantly twirling her tongue at every random stranger, that fat chick is better off going to the gym and within a years time, perhaps even becoming hot and pretty and before you know it, guys are pursuing her.

AMS appeals to you because he doesn’t preach about becoming greater than a male 5 or 6. He knows most guys want to take short cuts. And the ultimate short cut of all is pua game.....aka fat chick bl0wjob skills.
You are missing a big point. Fat chick still could get many guys as long as she is attractive enough to get them horny. And for women, it works the same way, except it is much easier to get a woman horny for you (if you know how) and it is much less related to your physical attractiveness (though muscles/style/face could help) and more about the emotional aspect of the interaction. Being a greater man wouldn't help you if you don't know how to interact with a woman and being non-needy. Women don't choose whom to **** based on logic. They do it based on emotions and you can affect her emotions and perception of you.

Men and women aren't the same, forget this equality bs, it isn't feminism forum.
 

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You are missing a big point. Fat chick still could get many guys as long as she is attractive enough to get them horny. And for women, it works the same way, except it is much easier to get a woman horny for you (if you know how) and it is much less related to your physical attractiveness (though muscles/style/face could help) and more about the emotional aspect of the interaction. Being a greater man wouldn't help you if you don't know how to interact with a woman and being non-needy. Women don't choose whom to **** based on logic. They do it based on emotions and you can affect her emotions and perception of you.

Men and women aren't the same, forget this equality bs, it isn't feminism forum.
I think you are the one who is missing the point. If you are a fat chick, the last thing you should concern yourself with is attracting guys. For your own sake, go to the gym and work out. Don't put the cart before the horse.

The analogy also applies to the OP. Spam approaching chicks is not actually how you stop from being needy and desperate. Making money, working out, networking with people who have access to women, building your influence, and cultivating social status is actually how you develop the social acuity, EQ, and VALUE to interact women without being needy.

You have to become your own ecosystem (without women) to eliminate neediness. The fact that you don't know this says a lot about you. You shouldn't talk about things you don't know about.

I am not talking about getting laid here and there, just enough to keep you going like the OP. I'm talking about abundance. I am in a different league.

For his own sake, he is better off working on his value and creating a social life that has a lot of women. It will make him non needy and calibrate him to women. He won't have his safety net anymore when he leaves college. It will also open doors professionally. It gives him access to resources (women included).

Noone is talking about logic. I'm talking about social status and actual value and abundance. The fact that this flew over your head implies you have none.

"Being a greater man won't help you if you don't know how to interact with a woman" - This sounds like typical PUA rationalization. You are 24 and still naive so it's understandable. You are desperate to get laid and place pvssy over everything.......even yourself, hence your refusal to become a great man.

"Women don't choose whom to fvk. They base it on emotions" - Value is what dictates women's emotions. How much value does a typical spam approaching machine have? He's the male version of the FAT chick in terms of being low value.

LOL.

At some point there are real winners and losers in life. No high value guy thinks like you. Only desperate guys do. I've been getting laid since high school. The importance you place on chasing chicks vs chasing your dreams looks completely pathetic from the perspective of a guy who already gets women.

Guys always project what they lack when they post, thinking they are clever enough to disguise their real shortcomings. I guess you've been "gaming" women for so long, you think you are clever enough to fool the experienced guys on this forum.

I can see right through you. Think about that the next time you post. I'm going to ask you how exactly you "create emotions" in women and affect their perception of you through game. Lol. I gurantee you it's going to look like a PUA fantasy.

You PUAs are like roaches. You squash one and another one shows up. But none of the roaches ever have anything of substance. They repeat the same jargon from pua school.
 
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You don’t “generate” attraction itself. In most cases what men are doing successfully that make it seem like attraction is being “generated” are really just exposing the less obvious opportunities that are already there; where attraction in varying degrees already exists but is not readily apparent.

A woman doesn’t go from bone dry to sopping wet simply because you say something magical that conveys confidence, for example. If that were possible, any doofus weakling can walk around with his scrawny muscles flexed and act like Gods gift to women...and viola!....bask in the glorious results of his confidence as grapes are lovingly fed to him.

Those guys who are looking for the perfect “line” that gets them laid are barking up the wrong tree.

Women will display whatever attraction they have when you simply give them the opportunity to do so. Going back to confidence as an example, such a display will not “generate” attraction at all. It will just open up the opportunity for a woman attracted to confident traits to express that interest that has always existed in her all along.

You’re not generating sh*t.

You’re not generating attraction by working out in the gym. You’re just developing a physique that provides more opportunities for yourself that will allow women to more readily express their preexisting interest in nice physiques.

You’re not generating attraction by being more sociable. You’re just interacting with more people to create more situations that will allow women to more readily express their preexisting interest in socially adept people.

You cannot change what turns a woman on and off simply by acting or dressing differently.

The only power you have to change your success rate is to embody and ooze characteristics that a large number of women have always been attracted to.

You can either try do that through natural self improvement or through shallow “techniques”. You can tell yourself you’re doing it for women or doing it for yourself. You can get obsessive with it or blow it off and say you’re too proud for that sh-t, but no matter how you dice it, you will always have to deal with the dynamics of either exposing opportunities through developed awareness or burying them with fears and anxieties.
 

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You don’t “generate” attraction itself. In most cases what men are doing successfully that make it seem like attraction is being “generated” are really just exposing the less obvious opportunities that are already there; where attraction in varying degrees already exists but is not readily apparent.

A woman doesn’t go from bone dry to sopping wet simply because you say something magical that conveys confidence, for example. If that were possible, any doofus weakling can walk around with his scrawny muscles flexed and act like Gods gift to women...and viola!....bask in the glorious results of his confidence as grapes are lovingly fed to him.

Those guys who are looking for the perfect “line” that gets them laid are barking up the wrong tree.

Women will display whatever attraction they have when you simply give them the opportunity to do so. Going back to confidence as an example, such a display will not “generate” attraction at all. It will just open up the opportunity for a woman attracted to confident traits to express that interest that has always existed in her all along.

You’re not generating sh*t.

You’re not generating attraction by working out in the gym. You’re just developing a physique that provides more opportunities for yourself that will allow women to more readily express their preexisting interest in nice physiques.

You’re not generating attraction by being more sociable. You’re just interacting with more people to create more situations that will allow women to more readily express their preexisting interest in socially adept people.

You cannot change what turns a woman on and off simply by acting or dressing differently.

The only power you have to change your success rate is to embody and ooze characteristics that a large number of women have always been attracted to.

You can either try do that through natural self improvement or through shallow “techniques”. You can tell yourself you’re doing it for women or doing it for yourself. You can get obsessive with it or blow it off and say you’re too proud for that sh-t, but no matter how you dice it, you will always have to deal with the dynamics of either exposing opportunities through developed awareness or burying them with fears and anxieties.
I agree with this for the most part. The only thing you can do is be your best self and you just happened to be the woman's type.

And when you are, you don't have to do anything.

That's why I have no game whatsoever.

My entire life I've never focused on what I can "do" to generate attraction in a woman who isn't already feeling me. The very thought sounds like a fantasy.

At best you can create a social ecosystem that produces women that are "most likely" to be on your wavelength and let natural chemistry (is it's already there) play itself out.

Since we all know that game is mostly a fantasy, the most rational thing to do is to cultivate value for yourself out of self love. That's really the only thing you can control.
 
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how do you do that if she isn't remotely physically attracted to you?
Give me some examples of the lines you use
What do you mean "lines"? Being horny is a physiological reaction. Women became horny when you touch them or when they see diсk. Even if you are ugly. A man could have some difficulties getting aroused if a woman is unattractive. He wouldn't even have a boner. It is different for women. As long as you are looking more a human than a monkey and she allows you to touch her she would become wet. If you dominate her, command her, etc she would be crazy wet. Even if you are balding 60 years old fatso and she is a Playboy model. But women have sex not because they are horny. They are different from men. They are attracted to physically attractive men not because their pussies become wet only from model-looking guys, they always pursue something else. Status, money, emotions, validation, etc. Sex for them is just something meant to get something else. The same goes for men to some extent, but we are much more driven by our horniness and it is easier for us to get validation just by having sex. Prostitution would be almost impossible if women were choosy when it comes to making their pussies wet. I was with some hookers and talked to them - even old fat men are still able to make hot women wet and horny and pleasure them in bed with the skill. It is a proven fact. Making woman horny is easy, what is hard is to make it so she accepted you before that. You show her your diсk, touch her ***** and she is already wet unless she is frigid. But the problem is that you need to get her consent first, you can't just show your **** or touch random women.
The analogy also applies to the OP. Spam approaching chicks is not actually how you stop from being needy and desperate. Making money, working out, networking with people who have access to women, building your influence, and cultivating social status is actually how you develop the social acuity, EQ, and VALUE to interact women without being needy.
To get women you should know how to get women. Guys like Elon Musk have crazy success in life, but still are beta cucks when it comes to women. Your neediness comes from a much deeper place than just your success in life. Many social outcasts, losers, and criminals have ***** come to them effortlessly. To become less needy you need to change yourself on a fundamental level, you can't really force it from the outside.
 
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I have found that "generated attraction" becomes a non-issue when a man simply forges himself into his best self. I always say "takes the hammer and chisel to himself".

The challenge here is that most men (and that includes most, but not all men here on SS), have no concept of forging themselves into their best selves. It means rising above your current station in life, and believing you can improve even without any evidence supporting that.

It's dogged determination to become one's highest self. Most men (and again, most men here) are content to be who they are, trying to manufacture attraction through strategies and mechanisms.

The fact is that especially for younger guys, who you are is far beneath who you can become. When I first came to SoSuave, that was me. Just saying "this is who I am" and thinking I couldn't change for the better. The great tragedy of our Western society is that there is no socially accepted rite of passage wherein society declares a boy to be a man. This would be something like some African and maybe South American tribes who tie vines to teenage boys and command them to dive off a tower. The vines stretch and prevent a damaging fall, but the boys must overcome the terror. Once they do, they are accepted as men.

So many men in the West are just boys in men's bodies, and it's not their fault at all. It's our feminized educational system and societal pressured which molded them long ago. The fault lies with our fathers and grandfathers who abdicated their role as leaders out of fear of rejection by women (and fear of loss of votes).

These are the men who come to this site wringing their hands over this one woman who is rejecting them. They are here to be taught, not to be ridiculed. This is their hospital, and they must be made to get out of bed immediately and learn to walk, but not with ridicule, unless they don't listen and act.

This site can make a boy (in a man's body) into a man if he just applies what is taught here. I'm living proof. I was utterly hopeless and utterly naive about women. Now my inbox gets flooded with requests for advice. How can this be?

What is taught here? Let's take body language. Take one day of the week and observe your body language and start to make subtle changes. Take the next day and observe and focus on making small-talk with strangers. Each day of the week, focus on another principle that is taught here, and then cycle through each week. Observe yourself, but don't judge yourself. Take fitness. Devise a fitness program and start. Are you fat and out of shape? Go outside and walk 10 steps out and 10 back. Next day, 11 steps and so on until you're running.

It's all about steady, incremental, tiny improvements. The tactics taught here are nothing more than training wheels to get you balanced.

Ask yourself: "Am I an exceptional man who deserves an exceptional lady?" Most of you can't say you are. You want an exceptional lady, but you don't understand that you are completely invisible to them, and they to you, just like I was 12 years ago.

Are you really a well-developed, authentic man, or are you just some shlub like I was who pines away for a nice woman and can't understand why all he sees are slvts and fatties?

If you become YOUR OWN best version of yourself, there is no issue of having to try to attract women. Instead you have an abundance of interest from a better class of woman and it becomes pretty obvious.

If you've read this far, you are reading about the evolution of a guy who was more clueless than most guys who come here as noobs. I was seemingly hopeless. I came to a fork in the road and decided to completely disrupt my reality as a loser and ignore that reality, and act as if I were that highly-developed man. There was absolutely no evidence that I could do it, nor did I know what I was even aspiring to, so I chose to become a better "me" every day. I had already given up on women, so it wasn't that I thought I could ever be attractive to them. I just thought that maybe I will at least be able to handle my life better with the outside chance I might find a barely tolerable women one day.

One of the best thing I ever did was decide to judge women. This was my turning point. That's a shorthand way of saying that I held them accountable for their words and actions, and expressed obvious disapproval for bad behavior, with all women, including family. This isn't always verbal. A disgusted look and/or turning the back is a punch in the stomach to most women. The result is that you become mean, abusive and hated, right? BY NO MEANS! The result is that you become friendly, approachable and attractive. Women are craving a man who keeps them in their place and whom they can look up to.

Are you a man who women look up to? Doubtful. Average is your mortal enemy. Average = invisible.

All this manufacturing attraction is ridiculous. Become a well-rounded man and women practically throw themselves at you. I'm 62 and it still happens all the time, everywhere I go in fact. I pick and choose from the subset of women who like my type. No man can be universally attractive as women can be.

What's the reward for taking the hammer and chisel to yourself? In my case I've got a gorgeous, submissive yet intelligent fiance. Zero drama and virtually no problems, just maybe a slight miscommunication a couple times. Who can ask for more than that? This former absolute loser scored himself one of the upper 2%.

Forget lines, pua techniques and the like. Just design who you want to be, and design your life, and attain it tiny bit by tiny bit.

Don't be average. Average is death in this game. Average is being stagnant and confused. Do you go out with clean shoes? Women assign enormous importance to clean shoes. After she looks at your eyes, she looks at your shoes and reads volumes into who you are. Are you neatly dressed even if casual? Are you working out, even if moderately (that's all I do). Do you have hobbies other than video games? Are you adjusting your body language? Are you making small-talk and fun everywhere you go? Do you carry yourself as a confident leader?

A man who learns to do these simple things as a matter of habit has all the bases covered. Look at my signature: "Assume a virtue if you have it not".

The great thing about being a man is that unlike most women, we are able to morph ourselves into something much better. We have a massive capacity to improve, but it takes pain and resolve.

This former loser did it, and If I can, almost anyone can. The thing that stops most men is that they can't even conceive of themselves in this role. That's why we need to defy our "reality" and assume the virtues that we know will make us the highest version of ourselves.

Becoming your best self is all about gaining the respect of people, not just women. We should aspire to be men who are influential with both men and women. In fact, men first. Yes, I said it.

Why are so many of you going after the table scraps when you could be seated at the banquet table? It's nothing more than perception and resolve to by the best YOU. You don't have to make yourself better than the guys you see who seem to have it made. You just need to make yourself better than the guy you were yesterday. Nothing more. Do this and like me, you will chuckle at how you used to be concerned about how to attract women. No more hand-wringing, no more trying to figure out what's wrong. Just abundance.

"Assume a virtue if you have it not.
William Shakespeare
 

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The above remarks only makes sense to nerds but it is wholly incorrect and grossly misleading.

The only constant attraction for women is power, nothing else matters.

If u r in a setting like a nightclub, then the one with the most power is good looking men.

If u r in a setting that's political, then the most attractive men there are those that holds significant sway. They hold the most power.

If u r in a sports setting, then the most attractive men will be those who has glory in the sports arena. They too hold the most power.

If u r in a gang prone area or setting, then the men with the most authority within that sphere will be the most attractive - the powerful.

If u r in a club that plays live music, then the most attractive men there will be those who sings and play the instruments.

You hv power, you will hv women, the more larger ur sphere of influence, the more bigger the attraction.

You can be the most handsome man in the sports arena and if you are not a player but just a fan then u r nothing compared to the ugliest sportsman.
Who the fck actually goes this deep with OPs post.
Its no wonder that men are going down. Who fcking cares?
"A way to think" yourself into more insanity.
 
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