nollams
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Ross Jeffries comes off as a wanker, Mystery comes off like "the man."
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Mystery Method On Dr. Phil
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Was Mystery in the audience putting the moves on Phil's MILFlicious wife?nollams said:
My thoughts Ross is a manipulative ****er, the women were less creeped out by the Mystery method, and Dr Phil is a manipulator how obiously put that stupid dumb ass girl who lost her money to a scam art test to put women in a mood of fear and defensiveness. Thats why at the end they all raise there hand.
ezily
Senior Don Juan
I think he gets it but he doesn't practice it.SinJester said:My god, I don't believe it! ElStud you've hit the jackpot, you finally get it
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
DarthAngel707
Don Juan
Yes, Dr. Phil is a hypocrite as always who manipulates people right there on his show. Can you believe that guy pulled $60 million last year? Thats more than a couple A-list celebrities combined!
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Her story was that of an Average, Frustrated, Chick (or any other "c" word that you feel would be descriptive).Beffing said:
Poonani Maker
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Yep, and that's also the kind of woman who will LISTEN to her friends & strangers about filing a sexual harassment lawsuit against any and every employer who so much as accidentally runs into her if she for-whatever-reason abruptly stops in the hallway.Beffing said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
thefonz
Master Don Juan
i'm still trying to figure out how that woman's story at the end is related to the community?
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
It's not. There is no relation at all to the community.thefonz said:
Dr. Phil and/or his producers realized that there was nothing wrong with guys learning how to get girls so he added that segment at the end to make it seem like it was connected. It was only a method to spark controversy and make women think that there is something to be worried about. It was only a trick to fool the stupid people. Unfortunately most of the audience was fooled.
Basically if the segment at the end was not included then the episode could not have been called, Women Beware!
Honestly if Dr. Phil is to do a show on the seduction community then he should focus on why it even exists.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
It's not, Phil even said it. I'm guessing it had more to do with the topic of the show since the whole "community" related stuff was benign in comparison.thefonz said:
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
LeComteDeMonteCristo
Don Juan
I thought it was the other way around.nollams said:
At least Jeffries came out and admitted "yeah I teach guys to get laid, women like to fawk, so what?"
The guys from MM was talking bull, "oh we're not part of the seduction community, we don't do F-closes". Yeah right.
A little honesty goes a long way.
OrangeCrusader
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Watching it right now, the 'taking money' part was weird and unexpected, likely just to add drama. PM for a link to it, not sure on the rules of posting video links here for it.
thefonz
Master Don Juan
I knowMaxtro said:
I love how he attacks RJ's marketing as manipulative when his own marketing for the show about the community was, "LIES, DECIET, SCANDAL".."SICK AND TWISTED"..."WOMEN BEWARE". Haha. Actually it's kinda funny.
Even though I think Dr. Phil himself approved of the community he realized his audience is 90% women and needed to look at it from a feminist angle. He is by his own admission, an AFC.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
I think that Dr. Phil agreed with the MM guys but catered to his core audience.SinJester said:Dr. Phil actually helped out the MM guys by comparing it to a push up bra
comic_relief
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.