mr. kennedy
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You're in a no win situation in the short-term. If he continues hassling her, it will annoy you. If he goes NC, she might start thinking about him more.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Okay, it is one of those 20/20 hindsight things. He already explained why they broke-up and she doesn't appear to raise any reg-flag on that issue.Iceberg said:That's a weird question. When you're in the bad relationship, rarely do you realize that it's a bad relationship. Only afterwards do you take time to think, "Wow. That was f**ked up."
Either way...it doesn't really matter why she broke up with her ex. That doesn't play into any of this. It just doesn't.
corrector said:Why two years if it was such a bad relationship?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Of course the girl is going to make the OP believe that it's #1. She would never admit that she still has feelings other than to her girlfriends.BigSmooth said:I think some of the people here have a distorted image of what NC really is.
If she truly is annoyed at the guy, and sincerely does not like him...him going NO CONTACT is not going to change that. If anything, it's going to be the biggest relief to her. Him going NO CONTACT is not automatically going to foster some type of deep attraction in her mind. It's not.
If there is a glimmer of hope for the guy and the girl still has little pieces of attraction for him and then he goes NO CONTACT, THEN we start worrying.
Sounds like the OP's girl is girl #1.
So basically every girl on the face of the planet who has an annoying, stalkish, creepy ex-boyfriend actually still likes/loves them?mr. kennedy said:Of course the girl is going to make the OP believe that it's #1. She would never admit that she still has feelings other than to her girlfriends.
I agree with The Exception's post. There was some bad advice. :trouble:topmanbarry said:Hey guys i'm a long time lurker and i really like what this forum is about.
I have a problem though. My girlfriend and i have a pretty smooth thing going on. I can tell she has super strong feelings for me and has done a lot for me. Thing is her ex has been literally begging to get back with her. She tells me she does not talk to the guy and is only cordial with him because they attend the same church. So she has to be mature about it.
This guy is texting her everyday begging her and calling her from blocked numbers. She says shes over him and does not want anything to do with him. Her actions also matches her words. Shes often told him she has a boyfriend and shes happy with him. Of course the guy does not listen and continues bothering her.
Today now she told me that he contacted her mom and her mom asked her if she wanted to know what he said she said no. To me this was getting too far and i felt uneasy with him orbiting our relationship. and i broke it off with her. She started to cry and told me don't go because shes loves and will do anything for me to be comfortable in this relationship.
She even said she would report him or change her number if it meant for me to stay with her. Thing is i really like this girl a lott and have not felt this way for another girl before but her ex just wont stop. There is really nothing i can do,i cant control him. I even texted him,but he was being a smart ass so i am guessing this is going to continue. What should i do guys? The relationship is going oh so good but her ex bothering her trying to get back with her is the only problem. Do i officially end things or just put up with it until he decides to stop?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
The odds increase the longer the relationship lasted.BigSmooth said:So basically every girl on the face of the planet who has an annoying, stalkish, creepy ex-boyfriend actually still likes/loves them?
Oh please.![]()
That was a lietopmanbarry said:Today now she told me that he contacted her mom and her mom asked her if she wanted to know what he said she said no.
Yes true. Low quality girls love drama. As said op should move on.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:My and casanova's advice comes from actual experience. The rest of you white knight keyboard jockeys are thinking in the abstract based on the logical possibility that there is a stalker. High-il women would not tell you about an ex. Why? Because []they[] KNOW that it sets off serious red flags. They will not risk scaring you off. In this case, we are not dealing with a mere sh1t test, she is making this guy a part of the OP's life. OP already talked to the freaking guy. On the contrary, low quality girls love to create drama, jealousy,and love triangles. You white knights suggesting that OP get involved with the police over some girl that his Gut SCREAMED was up to something and not worth the trouble need a reality check.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
This. Any quality woman will have exes trying to get back with her. How she handles them determines the proper response from you. Best case scenario, she is looking to you for support and guidance in protecting herself from this guy. Worst case scenario, she's not over him and she's a cheating drama queen you need to drop asap. We cant know those details from a message board.bluenorther said:Your girl needs to bring the hammer down on her ex and make it clear that he's out of line and looking for a restraining order. If she won't do it, that's your answer.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.