mr. kennedy
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You're in a no win situation in the short-term. If he continues hassling her, it will annoy you. If he goes NC, she might start thinking about him more.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Okay, it is one of those 20/20 hindsight things. He already explained why they broke-up and she doesn't appear to raise any reg-flag on that issue.Iceberg said:That's a weird question. When you're in the bad relationship, rarely do you realize that it's a bad relationship. Only afterwards do you take time to think, "Wow. That was f**ked up."
Either way...it doesn't really matter why she broke up with her ex. That doesn't play into any of this. It just doesn't.
corrector said:Why two years if it was such a bad relationship?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Of course the girl is going to make the OP believe that it's #1. She would never admit that she still has feelings other than to her girlfriends.BigSmooth said:I think some of the people here have a distorted image of what NC really is.
If she truly is annoyed at the guy, and sincerely does not like him...him going NO CONTACT is not going to change that. If anything, it's going to be the biggest relief to her. Him going NO CONTACT is not automatically going to foster some type of deep attraction in her mind. It's not.
If there is a glimmer of hope for the guy and the girl still has little pieces of attraction for him and then he goes NO CONTACT, THEN we start worrying.
Sounds like the OP's girl is girl #1.
So basically every girl on the face of the planet who has an annoying, stalkish, creepy ex-boyfriend actually still likes/loves them?mr. kennedy said:Of course the girl is going to make the OP believe that it's #1. She would never admit that she still has feelings other than to her girlfriends.
I agree with The Exception's post. There was some bad advice. :trouble:topmanbarry said:Hey guys i'm a long time lurker and i really like what this forum is about.
I have a problem though. My girlfriend and i have a pretty smooth thing going on. I can tell she has super strong feelings for me and has done a lot for me. Thing is her ex has been literally begging to get back with her. She tells me she does not talk to the guy and is only cordial with him because they attend the same church. So she has to be mature about it.
This guy is texting her everyday begging her and calling her from blocked numbers. She says shes over him and does not want anything to do with him. Her actions also matches her words. Shes often told him she has a boyfriend and shes happy with him. Of course the guy does not listen and continues bothering her.
Today now she told me that he contacted her mom and her mom asked her if she wanted to know what he said she said no. To me this was getting too far and i felt uneasy with him orbiting our relationship. and i broke it off with her. She started to cry and told me don't go because shes loves and will do anything for me to be comfortable in this relationship.
She even said she would report him or change her number if it meant for me to stay with her. Thing is i really like this girl a lott and have not felt this way for another girl before but her ex just wont stop. There is really nothing i can do,i cant control him. I even texted him,but he was being a smart ass so i am guessing this is going to continue. What should i do guys? The relationship is going oh so good but her ex bothering her trying to get back with her is the only problem. Do i officially end things or just put up with it until he decides to stop?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
The odds increase the longer the relationship lasted.BigSmooth said:So basically every girl on the face of the planet who has an annoying, stalkish, creepy ex-boyfriend actually still likes/loves them?
Oh please.![]()
That was a lietopmanbarry said:Today now she told me that he contacted her mom and her mom asked her if she wanted to know what he said she said no.
Yes true. Low quality girls love drama. As said op should move on.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:My and casanova's advice comes from actual experience. The rest of you white knight keyboard jockeys are thinking in the abstract based on the logical possibility that there is a stalker. High-il women would not tell you about an ex. Why? Because []they[] KNOW that it sets off serious red flags. They will not risk scaring you off. In this case, we are not dealing with a mere sh1t test, she is making this guy a part of the OP's life. OP already talked to the freaking guy. On the contrary, low quality girls love to create drama, jealousy,and love triangles. You white knights suggesting that OP get involved with the police over some girl that his Gut SCREAMED was up to something and not worth the trouble need a reality check.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
This. Any quality woman will have exes trying to get back with her. How she handles them determines the proper response from you. Best case scenario, she is looking to you for support and guidance in protecting herself from this guy. Worst case scenario, she's not over him and she's a cheating drama queen you need to drop asap. We cant know those details from a message board.bluenorther said:Your girl needs to bring the hammer down on her ex and make it clear that he's out of line and looking for a restraining order. If she won't do it, that's your answer.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.