mr. kennedy
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You're in a no win situation in the short-term. If he continues hassling her, it will annoy you. If he goes NC, she might start thinking about him more.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Okay, it is one of those 20/20 hindsight things. He already explained why they broke-up and she doesn't appear to raise any reg-flag on that issue.Iceberg said:That's a weird question. When you're in the bad relationship, rarely do you realize that it's a bad relationship. Only afterwards do you take time to think, "Wow. That was f**ked up."
Either way...it doesn't really matter why she broke up with her ex. That doesn't play into any of this. It just doesn't.
corrector said:Why two years if it was such a bad relationship?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Of course the girl is going to make the OP believe that it's #1. She would never admit that she still has feelings other than to her girlfriends.BigSmooth said:I think some of the people here have a distorted image of what NC really is.
If she truly is annoyed at the guy, and sincerely does not like him...him going NO CONTACT is not going to change that. If anything, it's going to be the biggest relief to her. Him going NO CONTACT is not automatically going to foster some type of deep attraction in her mind. It's not.
If there is a glimmer of hope for the guy and the girl still has little pieces of attraction for him and then he goes NO CONTACT, THEN we start worrying.
Sounds like the OP's girl is girl #1.
So basically every girl on the face of the planet who has an annoying, stalkish, creepy ex-boyfriend actually still likes/loves them?mr. kennedy said:Of course the girl is going to make the OP believe that it's #1. She would never admit that she still has feelings other than to her girlfriends.
I agree with The Exception's post. There was some bad advice. :trouble:topmanbarry said:Hey guys i'm a long time lurker and i really like what this forum is about.
I have a problem though. My girlfriend and i have a pretty smooth thing going on. I can tell she has super strong feelings for me and has done a lot for me. Thing is her ex has been literally begging to get back with her. She tells me she does not talk to the guy and is only cordial with him because they attend the same church. So she has to be mature about it.
This guy is texting her everyday begging her and calling her from blocked numbers. She says shes over him and does not want anything to do with him. Her actions also matches her words. Shes often told him she has a boyfriend and shes happy with him. Of course the guy does not listen and continues bothering her.
Today now she told me that he contacted her mom and her mom asked her if she wanted to know what he said she said no. To me this was getting too far and i felt uneasy with him orbiting our relationship. and i broke it off with her. She started to cry and told me don't go because shes loves and will do anything for me to be comfortable in this relationship.
She even said she would report him or change her number if it meant for me to stay with her. Thing is i really like this girl a lott and have not felt this way for another girl before but her ex just wont stop. There is really nothing i can do,i cant control him. I even texted him,but he was being a smart ass so i am guessing this is going to continue. What should i do guys? The relationship is going oh so good but her ex bothering her trying to get back with her is the only problem. Do i officially end things or just put up with it until he decides to stop?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
The odds increase the longer the relationship lasted.BigSmooth said:So basically every girl on the face of the planet who has an annoying, stalkish, creepy ex-boyfriend actually still likes/loves them?
Oh please.![]()
That was a lietopmanbarry said:Today now she told me that he contacted her mom and her mom asked her if she wanted to know what he said she said no.
Yes true. Low quality girls love drama. As said op should move on.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:My and casanova's advice comes from actual experience. The rest of you white knight keyboard jockeys are thinking in the abstract based on the logical possibility that there is a stalker. High-il women would not tell you about an ex. Why? Because []they[] KNOW that it sets off serious red flags. They will not risk scaring you off. In this case, we are not dealing with a mere sh1t test, she is making this guy a part of the OP's life. OP already talked to the freaking guy. On the contrary, low quality girls love to create drama, jealousy,and love triangles. You white knights suggesting that OP get involved with the police over some girl that his Gut SCREAMED was up to something and not worth the trouble need a reality check.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
This. Any quality woman will have exes trying to get back with her. How she handles them determines the proper response from you. Best case scenario, she is looking to you for support and guidance in protecting herself from this guy. Worst case scenario, she's not over him and she's a cheating drama queen you need to drop asap. We cant know those details from a message board.bluenorther said:Your girl needs to bring the hammer down on her ex and make it clear that he's out of line and looking for a restraining order. If she won't do it, that's your answer.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.