My "Algorithm"

[roaming shark]

Remember, you need to go out and do your homework before taking any woman to your spots. Get comfortable being there solo and in your own skin. Get to know the staff. If you can't do this, it can and will kill your vibe. I just moved to a new city and have a few spots I'm working on solo right now. I've already made connections at all locations and have received all kinds of invites. During the week, I've got a few 18-year-old hoes lacking all kinds of life experience lined up, so they aren't going to "drink" anything with me. They can drink what I shoot out for all I give a damn.

While this is useful in all. I don’t put that much stock on the venue. I’m more focused on the interaction, we could be in the middle of a moshpit. But ideally yes, build a reputation at venues. Most men can’t even maintain sexual tension with a women let alone work the staff at a venue.

 

[Glassguy]

This entire post is good and useful but after 3 years it will start to fade in usefulness just like any other dating tactic. Women catch on. They’re faster about catching on to these things than men. That’s why we have to be constantly adapting and changing our methods because women will begin to understand our game otherwise.

Well, its nearly 9 years since my original post and I am happy to say that I still use this venue and the Algorithm still works. There have been a few decently long relationships in the last 9 years but in terms of meeting women, it doesnt change. Ive added a few new spots to the venue list but old faithful keeps on producing lol.

In the end, the woman is qualifying herself to ME. Not the other way around.

Seducing women has not changed in quite some time and I dont see it changing any time soon. Its all about being direct and playful, leading the woman, going out on dates and letting women qualify themselves or disqualify themselves.

Ive read a lot of things over the years about how important it is for guys to be funny. And dont get me wrong, having humor is a benefit. Although I think being FUN is a much more rounded way to be. I am not on dates to be a comedian. I am on dates to meet new women, date existing women and let them see the fun side of me to which most women who are attracted to me will want to experience more of. And there is also the point of being direct.

Last weekend I went out with a new chick that lives over an hour from me. So my venues were off the table. She took me to 3 places that she likes to socialize in, all dive bars but very nice inside. Guess what? My process didnt change. She was intrigued by a weird liquor shot that I mentioned to her previously, so we started with it (same one since I made this thread in 2016 btw). Then she went to her go to and I went to mine. At the 3rd venue she was getting very handsy and I looked at her and said "Its time to go back to your place". The rest is history. We had a dinner date mid week this week at a place in between us. Going there Wednesday night to grab a drink and spend the night. The woman is late 30s, yoga fanatic and is a professional business woman in corporate America. Done deal and more fun to be had with her. And others.

Its not hard fellas. Its much easier to constantly strive to be the best version of yourself, find out what works for you and your personality and then get out there and perform. Yet some guys want to reinvent the wheel.

I'll stick to what I have figured out and works for me.

Happy Hunting

 

[Barrister]

Well, its nearly 9 years since my original post and I am happy to say that I still use this venue and the Algorithm still works. There have been a few decently long relationships in the last 9 years but in terms of meeting women, it doesnt change. Ive added a few new spots to the venue list but old faithful keeps on producing lol.

In the end, the woman is qualifying herself to ME. Not the other way around.

Seducing women has not changed in quite some time and I dont see it changing any time soon. Its all about being direct and playful, leading the woman, going out on dates and letting women qualify themselves or disqualify themselves.

Ive read a lot of things over the years about how important it is for guys to be funny. And dont get me wrong, having humor is a benefit. Although I think being FUN is a much more rounded way to be. I am not on dates to be a comedian. I am on dates to meet new women, date existing women and let them see the fun side of me to which most women who are attracted to me will want to experience more of. And there is also the point of being direct.

Last weekend I went out with a new chick that lives over an hour from me. So my venues were off the table. She took me to 3 places that she likes to socialize in, all dive bars but very nice inside. Guess what? My process didnt change. She was intrigued by a weird liquor shot that I mentioned to her previously, so we started with it (same one since I made this thread in 2016 btw). Then she went to her go to and I went to mine. At the 3rd venue she was getting very handsy and I looked at her and said "Its time to go back to your place". The rest is history. We had a dinner date mid week this week at a place in between us. Going there Wednesday night to spend grab a drink and spend the night. The woman is late 30s, yoga fanatic and is a professional business woman in corporate America. Done deal and more fun to be had with her. And others.

Its not hard fellas. Its much easier to constantly strive to be the best version of yourself, find out what works for you and your personality and then get out there and perform. Yet some guys want to reinvent the wheel.

I'll stick to what I have figured out and works for me.

Happy Hunting

Your OP was gold; and this is a good follow-up.

Agree on the humor part. If it is natural and not too thick it works very well. Just don't turn the date into a joke-telling session -- and especially not if it is at your own expense even if you think it is funny. Women are going to get dried up by a clown even if they are laughing. You never want them laughing AT you; just with you.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Textbook advice

 

[Solomon]

This entire post is good and useful but after 3 years it will start to fade in usefulness just like any other dating tactic. Women catch on. They’re faster about catching on to these things than men. That’s why we have to be constantly adapting and changing our methods because women will begin to understand our game otherwise.

Nonsense

There are 2 Bars/Restaurants I have been taking girls to for years where I live
The restaurant is only a 5-minute drive from my place
Which is great logistics if the girl wants to come back
90% of my dates are within 10 minutes or less from my house I prefer girls to come to my area on a first date. If a girl lives far depending on the vibe I will compromise and meet her halfway. I live in a medium-sized town but I do not bother with women who live 30 minutes or further away from me. Unless they are willing to come to me (in the last year alone I had one girl drive 4 hours from another state to see me, and another 3 hours. I have a woman who lives 4 hours away currently and planning to see me)

I recently have added a 3rd because of the fact last summer I was going on a lot of dates. The waitresses are cool but some of them will say some slick shyt like "Weren't you guys here last week?" Not cool so by adding a 3rd bar in the rotation I can switch up more frequently depending on how many different dates I go on etc
However, all venues(3 bars) are a 7-minute drive or less from my place
OP is algorithm is spot on and I have been doing the same
In my experience,if a woman gives you a "side-hug" and then forgot about it, usually it means she is not feeling you.
This happened to me on my last date, no worries spinning more plates and trying to get them spinning

While this is useful in all. I don’t put that much stock on the venue. I’m more focused on the interaction, we could be in the middle of a moshpit. But ideally yes, build a reputation at venues. Most men can’t even maintain sexual tension with a women let alone work the staff at a venue.

The venue is important for logicitics. Plain and simple
If you meeting girls an hour from you or in random cities 30 minutes away
It makes it hard to pull chicks back even if they are DTF
in 2015 or 2016 I had a situation happen where a chick (cute nerdy girl with a bubble butt and small waist)was down to come home with me but then changed her mind because I lived to far (I was 25 minutes away). Luckily I did end up smashing her a couple times after that (sucks it didn't last cause she was my type)

I'm not saying the interaction isn't important it is. However logicistics are also important espeically if you had a great interaction and great sexual tension. A long drive can be a buzzkill as mentioned in the story

 

[jhonny9546]

@Glassguy
No one's ever asked you this, but doesn't doing what you do make you feel ashamed?

I mean, everyone knows you're a womanizer, and word spreads in your city, and you're labeled.
I'd rather choose a bar 10km from my "social zone," and if everyone knew me there, then it wouldn't bother me.
Because it's not an "area" of the city I frequent often, but just that "place" where I often go and take women.

Have you ever thought about the fact that rumors might spread, and that this creates a certain shame in you? Your post is very interesting and still very relevant.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@Glassguy
No one's ever asked you this, but doesn't doing what you do make you feel ashamed?

I mean, everyone knows you're a womanizer, and word spreads in your city, and you're labeled.
I'd rather choose a bar 10km from my "social zone," and if everyone knew me there, then it wouldn't bother me.
Because it's not an "area" of the city I frequent often, but just that "place" where I often go and take women.

Have you ever thought about the fact that rumors might spread, and that this creates a certain shame in you? Your post is very interesting and still very relevant.

Glassguy doesn't live in Italy, Jhonny.

 

[Sega Genesis]

My process is simple:
*first "dates" are a mere invitation to join me for a drink or pizza and a drink (if a drinks date is warranted based on her behavior)
*I nearly always go to one of 3 places for the first drink date. I do this because the people there (both social crowd and workers/servers) all know me so it is a good thing to be in a place where people acknowledge who you are (its a good sign of social statuIs to your date)
*I ALWAYS tell them what I drive and tell them to wait on me if they get there first. I walk in with them for a reason- I want to see their body and I dont want to walk in and sit down after the chick is already inside. Its hard to tell a body type if the woman is already sitting down inside.
*I nearly always order the same drink and when possible, I order a drink for her (women love that). The drink selection is good for getting a slight buzz but never drunk. Just enough to allow the woman to be chatty. I am not there to do all of the talking but rather to do most of the listening and screen for red flags (a topic all by itself)
*I generally will sit across the table from the woman but I always find something to show her on my phone if I feel a good vibe going and at that point I move over to sit beside her. I dont immediately sit next to a woman because I dont want her to feel as though I have given her any approval yet and I dont want to be stuck beside a woman if she ends up being super weird or the conversation sucks. I will move next to her once I feel as though my interest level in her is going to be high enough to be kissing (or more) later in the date.
*Upon exiting the restaurant, I ALWAYS walk them to their car. If I am not feeling her, I give her a hug and tell her that I had a good time and to let me know when she makes it home safely.
*If I am feeling her, I will always transition from a hug to a kiss. ALWAYS. If we start making out, I ALWAYS say "Lets jump in your car so we are not out in the open/out in the cold/etc. Into the car we go where the making out will intensify. If things get heavier, based on schematics, I will either tell them to follow me home or I will follow them home if their house if free and mine is not.

The process is both simple and complex. Simple because anyone can do it as long as you know how to handle yourself from A-B so that you are building interest and building SEXUAL TENSION during the date (That is if you are vibing and attracted to the woman you are out with).

Its complex because just about everything that you do has a purpose and those purposes get you to the end result.

I make sure that I am well groomed. I dress nice but not over the top. I smell good (body wash and cologne). I display extreme confidence but not conceitedness during the date. I am direct, yet witty/sarcastic in a fun way. I dont offer information about me but I pay close attention to what a woman tells me....and they will tell you everything you need to hear if you lead the conversation and keep it going.

I do not bounce around from one place to another as a general practice like others do, to make it feel like several dates in one. I feel as if I can make a woman feel both comfortable, sexually interested and still leave them wanting more in just one location of the date. Nothing against those people that go to 2 or 3 places back to back, its just normally not my thing. Plus I dont have 3 hours to spend on a drinks date.

Remember, I am screening them and finding out my level of interest in them while also paying attention to the IOIs they are giving me throughout the date.

My "Algorithm" works 100% of the time. I find out my level of interest in them and I get to gauge their level of interest in me.

Happy Hunting.

Hey @Glassguy, this^^ post is old but the thread was recently bumped and just had a chance to read.

It is GOLD!! Absolute gold and I'm female!

Reading it, I was envisioning myself in this scenario and could definitely see myself being utterly charmed AND I love how gallant you are as well (walking her to her car and telling her to text that she got home safely!) regardless of whether you were "feeling" her or not and wanted to see her again.

Very 'gentleman' like and reflects A LOT of class.

I specifically bolded the part that discusses building interest and sexual tension (by being fun, playful and direct); this is exactly what I was referring to in another thread recently and sort of got shot down for it.

Anyway....

It sounds like you have a great understanding of women and that many of us women need to sort of "warm up" to a man before we know exactly how we feel and in direction we'd like things to go (i.e the bedroom or otherwise).

You know what to say and do that combines both building sexual tension with knowing how to make her feel comfortable and 'safe' with you.

So that she wants to get in the car with you and/or jump in bed with you!

Not easy to do for many men in my experience!

Anyway just my $.02 fwiw, you should post more often!

P.S. Your former plate/now female friend called it an 'algorithm' but to ME it's simply having really good 'Game' (and not in a bad or negative way)!

.

 

[Glassguy]

@Glassguy
No one's ever asked you this, but doesn't doing what you do make you feel ashamed?

I mean, everyone knows you're a womanizer, and word spreads in your city, and you're labeled.
I'd rather choose a bar 10km from my "social zone," and if everyone knew me there, then it wouldn't bother me.
Because it's not an "area" of the city I frequent often, but just that "place" where I often go and take women.

Have you ever thought about the fact that rumors might spread, and that this creates a certain shame in you? Your post is very interesting and still very relevant.

In terms of dating, I dont really care what other people think. It worked/works for me so I do it. Other people who are falling flat on their face want to judge me? Ok. Keep on keeping on. I'll keep doing my own thing.
Ive been dating the same woman for 8 months. We get along great. Want to know where it started? The same place that a lot of others started. They just didn't last as long. No big deal.
I was always open to whatever happened with all the other women I went out with. For whatever reason it didn't work out. No big deal.
This isn't just an algorithm for hooking up. Its an algorithm that works for me taking a chick out and getting to know them, see how it clicks.
And if you think that women will look down on you if you have the perception of dating a lot, that's the furthest from the truth. As long as you're not out there trying to show off Rosie O'Donnell as your date.
If you're dating attractive women who are successful, guess what? Other attractive and successful women are going to take notice. And when you become free and want to take them out, it makes it easier for them to say yes.
They see value in going out with me.

 

[Glassguy]

Hey @Glassguy, this^^ post is old but the thread was recently bumped and just had a chance to read.

It is GOLD!! Absolute gold and I'm female!

Reading it, I was envisioning myself in this scenario and could definitely see myself being utterly charmed AND I love how gallant you are as well (walking her to her car and telling her to text that she got home safely!) regardless of whether you were "feeling" her or not and wanted to see her again.

Very 'gentleman' like and reflects A LOT of class.

I specifically bolded the part that discusses building interest and sexual tension (by being fun, playful and direct); this is exactly what I was referring to in another thread recently and sort of got shot down for it.

Anyway....

It sounds like you have a great understanding of women and that many of us women need to sort of "warm up" to a man before we know exactly how we feel and in direction we'd like things to go (i.e the bedroom or otherwise).

You know what to say and do that combines both building sexual tension with knowing how to make her feel comfortable and 'safe' with you.

So that she wants to get in the car with you and/or jump in bed with you!

Not easy to do for many men in my experience!

Anyway just my $.02 fwiw, you should post more often!

P.S. Your former plate/now female friend called it an 'algorithm' but to ME it's simply having really good 'Game' (and not in a bad or negative way)!

.

I appreciate that. As far as posting more, I'd love to and try to do so when I have time. I tend to stay busy, very focused on my career, dating a super great (so far) woman who is very attractive and extremely smart/educated......and time seems to be that of value that other areas are getting the bulk of right now.
In my late teens and early 20s I tried lots of different angles of dating. How to date, where to go on dates, etc. I believe I've crafted what worked and kept refining it to match my personality. Fun. Serious. Carefree. Direct. Chivalrous. Witty.
Dating should be fun with positive outcomes. So I ended up with this "algorithm". Does that mean every dating sequence starts out the same way? Absolutely not. But this "algorithm " always got great results.
Its fun. Playful. The dates are an experience. I tend to think that it makes women THINK they have known me forever and feel safe. It also can still create a lot of mystery so that things dont seem boring from date to date.
Men and women tend to want the same things. We just go about getting what we want in different ways. I have paid attention to what works and what doesnt work as well for both parties to get what they wanted or needed out of our dating interactions until it didnt work any longer. Then its time to start a new interaction with a new woman.
By date 3 I might go from a very light and fun conversation on the date to looking her right in the eye and telling her that Im going to take her back to my house and rip her panties off.
So its a lot of switching gears but its all created by the interactions that I have with each woman. If that makes sense.

 

[jhonny9546]

@Glassguy Does your algorithm stop somewhere for LTRs or is it suited and built on STRs?

 

[Glassguy]

@Glassguy Does your algorithm stop somewhere for LTRs or is it suited and built on STRs?

Ive always taken the same approach for dating: run a rotation of quality women and if one is worthy of pursuing a relationship with, so be it. Typically I would date 2-4 chicks at a time. Some would fall out and I'd replace them.
When I started dating my current gf I was physically dating 3 different women. She showed very high quality in regards to character, her own purpose (she has a doctorate) and was very feminine and showed very high interest. Over the course of a couple of months, she separated herself from the others and she brought up the idea of dating exclusively, even though I knew she wasnt physically seeing anyone else the entire time she had dated me.
She divorced last year from a 15+ year marriage and had recently jumped back into the dating scene. She went out with 1 guy on a several hour hiking trip (their only "date" before going out with me, it never got sexual with him, and the rest is history.
I have found that women who are a catch (strong character, financially self dependent, solid career/higher education, low body counts, feminine) generally dont stay on the market very long after they come out a LRT. So far we get along great, the sex is on point, she literally waits on me hand and foot, cooks dinner, etc. So its been a solid choice so far.
On the flip side- OLD is full of the same faces from the last decade of sloots who are bat shyte crazy and are on the c0ck carousel, getting passed around like an ink pen.
So I struck while the iron was hot with her.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Very good OP
Sounds a lot like some of my dates / hookups when they’ve gone well. Cool that you have optimised it well done.

 

[jhonny9546]

Ive always taken the same approach for dating: run a rotation of quality women and if one is worthy of pursuing a relationship with, so be it. Typically I would date 2-4 chicks at a time. Some would fall out and I'd replace them.
When I started dating my current gf I was physically dating 3 different women. She showed very high quality in regards to character, her own purpose (she has a doctorate) and was very feminine and showed very high interest. Over the course of a couple of months, she separated herself from the others and she brought up the idea of dating exclusively, even though I knew she wasnt physically seeing anyone else the entire time she had dated me.
She divorced last year from a 15+ year marriage and had recently jumped back into the dating scene. She went out with 1 guy on a several hour hiking trip (their only "date" before going out with me, it never got sexual with him, and the rest is history.
I have found that women who are a catch (strong character, financially self dependent, solid career/higher education, low body counts, feminine) generally dont stay on the market very long after they come out a LRT. So far we get along great, the sex is on point, she literally waits on me hand and foot, cooks dinner, etc. So its been a solid choice so far.
On the flip side- OLD is full of the same faces from the last decade of sloots who are bat shyte crazy and are on the c0ck carousel, getting passed around like an ink pen.
So I struck while the iron was hot with her.

Sounds interesting, thanks for taking the time to share your system with us.

One thing's unclear: do you also date women who are currently engaged, married, or already have children?

 

[Glassguy]

Sounds interesting, thanks for taking the time to share your system with us.

One thing's unclear: do you also date women who are currently engaged, married, or already have children?

No, no and yes if the circumstances are favorable

 

[jhonny9546]

No, no and yes if the circumstances are favorable

Make some examples, that is too short.

Like if an engaged woman will actually show interest, what do you do?
Same for the other

Thanks, this is getting informative.

 

[Glassguy]

Make some examples, that is too short.

Like if an engaged woman will actually show interest, what do you do?
Same for the other

Thanks, this is getting informative.

I dont mess with engaged or married women. If they came on to me, what type of character do they have? Not very good. So why mess with them?
Therre are too many single women out there to get involved in that drama.

 

[jhonny9546]

If they came on to me, what type of character do they have? Not very good. So why mess with them?

You're basically saying that is a red flag, but there could be many reasons.
People nowadays have just a fear of being alone.

Also, when you reach a certain age, math would dictate that you'd be almost obligated to consider those in a relationship who show interest.
Imagine you're 40 or 45, and your dating pool is between 30 and 45.
At that point, many of them will have a very high probability of having children or already being in relationships.

Just a perspective.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You're basically saying that is a red flag, but there could be many reasons.
People nowadays have just a fear of being alone.

Also, when you reach a certain age, math would dictate that you'd be almost obligated to consider those in a relationship who show interest.
Imagine you're 40 or 45, and your dating pool is between 30 and 45.
At that point, many of them will have a very high probability of having children or already being in relationships.

Just a perspective.

Engaged or married women carry substantial risk of enraged spouse. Hard pass

 

[Glassguy]

You're basically saying that is a red flag, but there could be many reasons.
People nowadays have just a fear of being alone.

Also, when you reach a certain age, math would dictate that you'd be almost obligated to consider those in a relationship who show interest.
Imagine you're 40 or 45, and your dating pool is between 30 and 45.
At that point, many of them will have a very high probability of having children or already being in relationships.

Just a perspective.

The children factor depends on many things.
And to identity what seems to be the elephant in your room: being alone is quite satisfying if it comes down to being alone or being with someone who is toxic, married, engaged, or trauma bonded to some douche bag.
I firmly believe that anyone on their purpose welcomes some alone time yet also has no problem getting great company when they want it due to their strong social circle.
If you lack most of those, I could see where being alone would be quite miserable and you definitely need to work on yourself.