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It could also be a symptom of Female Abundance and extreme heightened Ego - which is propped up by her hordes of bluepill simps. She uses lesser men for the Ego boost, because higher value men challenge her and represent an Ego threat. Abundance has made her lazy and not motivated to please men. Higher value men are more challenging and more likely to call out her bullsh!t. She has likely been ruthlessly dumped by Chads in the past and she doesn't like how that feels. Through her abundance (with bluepill simps), she has conditioned herself for easy wins and validation. She knows deep down that a higher value man ultimately won't value her as a Star. It's an Ego protection move on her part. She sees the handsome guy as already getting female attention and this triggers competition anxiety, which she hamsters away and pretends she's not interested so she can continue to live-out her deluded Star fantasy.
Exactly bro. This is what I also suspect. She was ruthlessly played by "chads" and "Tyrones" in the past. This type of ego protection is more common than we think.
 

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i think that we have to make a delimitation between who she dates , and who she is attracted to and wants to bang .

in the first case , she wants to have a relationship with men that she can dominate, because they are safe . The relationship will be a mess for a guy like that , but for her it will be good because she will get what she needs , which is the emotion of feeling safe . She will cheat though with men she finds attractive , and come back to the safe option when she is hurt .

if you are an attractive guy , you just have to tone down your vibe not to scare her away :)
Yes it is a mess for the guy. I feel sorry for him. She totally runs the show and threatens him. He is meek and timid. Now I dont know about the cheating part but I may be just naive.
 

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If I had a son I would raise him to live his life... to put his hobbies and passion over finding his princess. Grow up... hunt, fish, fix stuff, work at a job you love, play sports, workout... and if you eventually find a chick with traditional values and good qualities then settle down but in nature the guy is the one pumping and ghosting... that’s the problem with everything right now... it’s completely out of balance and it reflects in the world.
I am trying to tailor my life to this model right now. I only get real joy from my hobbies. I want to live like this now. The issue is that if you live like this then you will never have a son =(

Btw what are you referring to when you say "in nature the guy is the one pumping and ghosting"? Are you saying that women are becoming masculine and the men are becoming feminine validation seekers?
 

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On a fundamental level, any deviation from traditional standards of attraction is typically a sign of underlying psychological issues (i.e. having her heart broken repeatedly by good-looking guys). I don't know if such women are "agents of chaos" or simply dysfunctional, broken individuals.
Man well put. I agree. The reason I say they are agents of chaos is because they are comfortable in their dysfunction. I dont mean to sound misogynistic or chauvanistic. Let me explain what I was recently taught by an esoteric teacher.

The feminine is formless. It is chaos. From this chaos comes creation. They are the womb that order emerges from. You need chaos for creation to occur. "Order out of chaos" is the saying. This is why women argue tangentially. They debate feelings and are all over the place with arguments. This is exemplified in their emotional fluctuations. It is boundless. A women is a sea of different emotions through out the day. Their origin is a mystery to her. A woman is unable to pull herself out of a chaotic spiral because she lacks order.

The masculine is order. Order taken to its extreme is too restrictive and stifles creativity. Think about the extreme order of fascist regimes or communism. Extreme order is a Borg ( Star Trek reference) like dystopia. The masculine creates boundaries for the chaos of the feminine. We balance each other out.

Our society is out of balance. We are letting the feminine run amuck. This is turning women into agents of chaos. They dont even know why they do self destructive things. Someone once said "Women are like fire. If controlled, it will be the best thing ever. If it isn't controlled it will burn down everything".
 

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Man well put. I agree. The reason I say they are agents of chaos is because they are comfortable in their dysfunction. I dont mean to sound misogynistic or chauvanistic. Let me explain what I was recently taught by an esoteric teacher.

The feminine is formless. It is chaos. From this chaos comes creation. They are the womb that order emerges from. You need chaos for creation to occur. "Order out of chaos" is the saying. This is why women argue tangentially. They debate feelings and are all over the place with arguments. This is exemplified in their emotional fluctuations. It is boundless. A women is a sea of different emotions through out the day. Their origin is a mystery to her. A woman is unable to pull herself out of a chaotic spiral because she lacks order.

The masculine is order. Order taken to its extreme is too restrictive and stifles creativity. Think about the extreme order of fascist regimes or communism. Extreme order is a Borg ( Star Trek reference) like dystopia. The masculine creates boundaries for the chaos of the feminine. We balance each other out.

Our society is out of balance. We are letting the feminine run amuck. This is turning women into agents of chaos. They dont even know why they do self destructive things. Someone once said "Women are like fire. If controlled, it will be the best thing ever. If it isn't controlled it will burn down everything".
Order and Chaos. Men are Order, Women are Chaos. This has always been accepted truth throughout all human history, right up until the 1960's when the great Feminist Gaslight began.

A woman's full chaos is unleashed when she doesn't have a strong Daddy to set her chaotic mind straight.
 

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We are calibrating to attract the most hypergamous women. We repel the women looking for safety and security primarily, whether post-epiphany or just were always that way and hated rejection.
Damn bro. Are you saying that being charismatic and decent looking is calibrating to attract the most hypergamous women? Is it that they think you are a player? Its bizarre because we dont look at ourselves as being anything a women would be afraid of. Our perception of ourselves must be very different than the perception they have of us.

I dont know if I attract hypergamous women because I dont have money. Maybe may personality counts as currency idk?
 

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ya its crazy. Not too sure if I was a trained psychologist would I knowingly take this on, willingly in my personal life for free.

Could I stay sane or would crazy drag me down?
They will drag you down. Omg......6 months with a borderline and you will feel the CHAOS. They are the definition of chaos. I will never do that again. Their emotions come in waves and out of nowhere. They rage and then they subside as quickly as they come. Like ocean waves.

Some psychologist classify BPD as femininity taken to its extreme. Conversely sociopathy/ anti social disorder may be masculinity taken to the extreme.
 

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Order and Chaos. Men are Order, Women are Chaos. This has always been accepted truth throughout all human history, right up until the 1960's when the great Feminist Gaslight began.

A woman's full chaos is unleashed when she doesn't have a strong Daddy to set her chaotic mind straight.
Yes exactly bro. That dad is crucial in setting the borders for her chaos. Women take offense to people pointing out that they are chaos. Chaos is not neccesairly a bad thing. It just means formless. Thats what I want women to understand. They cant deny their chaos. They dont even have well formed personalities. They take on the personalities of the most dominant person in the group. Like chameleons.
 

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I thought men's appetites were overwhelming and monstrous, as you described the comparison here.

This comparison is what brought it home for me.

In other words, abstractly speaking, I believe if you can see that in women then you're telling the truth about men.
Christie what gender are you if you dont mind me asking? I ask because of the name. Thank you
 

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Christie what gender are you if you dont mind me asking? I ask because of the name. Thank you
I'm a born female with developed masculine thoughts and you are a natural male, I know, but I thought your profile name was a female at first.




I cherish honesty and will try my best to answer any question honestly.

At one time, dishonesty was my biggest character defect.
 

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I see two issues here:
1) All women have some inherent level of insecurity that never gets better as they get older. In contrast, men's insecurity improves over time as we address our weaknesses in life and learn to ignore the things that we can't change. Women can try to do the same thing, but they never really feel it the way that a man does.
2) Women are more realistic with relationships than most guys realize. They have an inherent ability to quickly categorize a guy as player or provider (on a spectrum, not absolute) and decide if they can work with the guy.

So, my guess is that your friend has lower self-esteem (which she may be able to hide very well) while she has a somewhat realistic view about her chances for a worthwhile relationship with certain men.

With regards to chicks ghosting, it's not a vindictive thing. Women auto-reject when they don't see a reasonable chance of things working. They might sleep with a guy once or twice just to get him out of their system (they suffer from the same "what if" regrets that guys do). Then, they'll ghost him because they don't want to try to "logically" explain something that they feel a guy should inherently understand.

As a guy, you need to figure out what her perception of you is relative to her. If she acts like she's nervous about offending you, it's an obvious sign that she thinks very-highly of you. You should be building her confidence and bringing her up to your level.

I read so many posts on this board and others about women being random, vindictive, agents of chaos, etc. I really don't buy any of it. Women are very shrewd about relationships. As a guy, you should always try to understand what's in it for her by assessing where she is in life and where she's going (which can change even on a short-term basis or when they're on vacation). A single-mom looking for some help has completely different goals than a recently-divorced 40ish woman who is in her "fear of missing out phase".
Man you might be right. I may have to re evaluate my theory. Let me offer a couple counter points though.

1.) Women routinely say " I dont know why I even slept with him/ dated him". They say this months after they stop dealing with the guy. Isn't this evidence of chaos?

2.) Women often will keep a guy as a beta orbiter then develop latent jealous feelings over him when he has sex with her friend. These are conflicting emotions. Isn't this evidence of chaos?

3.) Women will fall out of "love" with a man years into the relationship for no identifiable reason. More chaos.

4.) Women will often like a guy that is lesser value, but friend zone higher value guys. Then smash an ugly guy, then smash a hot guy etc...seemingly random behavior.

5.) Women often display cognitive dissonance and cope mechanisms to avoid personal accountability. For example the fat acceptance movement. Chaos right?

6.) They struggle to understand simple contradictions and hypocrisies of feminist talking points. For example, they want equal pay....yet they want men to make more money. Is this not chaos?

7.) Their attraction meter is visceral. Its not a logical evaluation of objective reality. Visceral attraction is chaotic.

Maybe my logic is off brotha. I just dont notice any consistency in their behaviors. All I hear is alot of fuzzy " I dont know why I did that...umm" when I talk to them.
 
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They will drag you down. Omg......6 months with a borderline and you will feel the CHAOS. They are the definition of chaos. I will never do that again. Their emotions come in waves and out of nowhere. They rage and then they subside as quickly as they come. Like ocean waves.

Some psychologist classify BPD as femininity taken to its extreme. Conversely sociopathy/ anti social disorder may be masculinity taken to the extreme.
This is the first time I've considered this.
That BPD is femininity taken to its extreme.
 

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I cherish honesty and will try my best to answer any question honestly.

At one time, dishonesty was my biggest character defect.
Wow thanks for the self awareness. Yes my name comes from the myth of Pandora's box. The modern world opened a Pandora's box of issues when we transitioned to sex positivity and casual dating.
 

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Wow thanks for the self awareness. Yes my name comes from the myth of Pandora's box. The modern world opened a Pandora's box of issues when we transitioned to sex positivity and casual dating.
Pandora, I created this profile then messaged the mod team to please close down my Lynx Nkaf one. They only banned it, not deleted it. I only asked for it to be closed, didn't care how.
Christie is my birth name, selfdoxing doesn't concern me.

We've posted on same threads before.
 

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In most military units, from what I understand, there are basically 2 people who will end up doing all the effective fighting while the rest of the unit supports them.

From what I understand, this idea of the minority doing the majority of effective fighting in combat is something saw in every type of military unit to see combat including pilots.

I would suggest there are some men, in the same vein, more apt for the presence of women than others
 

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Masculine is order and feminine is chaos. There is no other way.
 

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Btw what are you referring to when you say "in nature the guy is the one pumping and ghosting"? Are you saying that women are becoming masculine and the men are becoming feminine validation seekers?
It is a gamble but I believe one that will pay off. I am a firm believer if you life your life for yourself and live it with true passion your much more likely to draw in a high value female that will allow you to continue to pursue those pursue those passions. You may not find that female but you will still enjoy your life.

in nature most males hunt the females for mating. They breed with multiple females to carry on their blood line and that’s it. Maybe next mating season the male breeds with that female again maybe not but he continues to find new females and breed.

right now in society it’s the opposite.. most males become cucks and will orbit around low value trash while that female is usually making her rounds with multiple males. Your considered toxic if you go with your biology as a male. Females are considered bold and beautiful... told they are equal to men. I don’t know where society is going but it isn’t looking good!
 

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It is a gamble but I believe one that will pay off. I am a firm believer if you life your life for yourself and live it with true passion your much more likely to draw in a high value female that will allow you to continue to pursue those pursue those passions. You may not find that female but you will still enjoy your life.

in nature most males hunt the females for mating. They breed with multiple females to carry on their blood line and that’s it. Maybe next mating season the male breeds with that female again maybe not but he continues to find new females and breed.

right now in society it’s the opposite.. most males become cucks and will orbit around low value trash while that female is usually making her rounds with multiple males. Your considered toxic if you go with your biology as a male. Females are considered bold and beautiful... told they are equal to men. I don’t know where society is going but it isn’t looking good!
That first paragraph of yours just described 'chasing excellence' the best I've read yet as a definition, imo
 

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Chaos Theory ( some call it Star Theory) is something I have strongly supported as a dual theory to Hypergamy. Both are valid. This is even more evidence.
Never heard of star theory. Elaborate on dual theory?

Imho dorks beat hypergamy to death but tend to be lazy. They don't approach, pull or get girls. Are married lololol.

Evo psych, women and kids survived more often than not when they date up /hypergamy rant. Its definitely real but far too much beating a dead horse by red pill married life guy on YouTube. Not got new vagina for how many decades? Should cause skeptics but I digress.

I have a fascination with chaos theory, string theory, and butterfly effect. Pickup is a example of it and ****ing with it. Entrepreneurship is a good thing too in that regard.

I have a female associate who told me that she is turned off by "attractive guys". We were ranking attractive coworkers. She said she friendzones them. She said she will go for the unassuming non traditionally good looking dude.
LOL


This is confirmed by seeing her bf. I also know for a fact that she does indeed reject the advances of the cool handsome guys at work.

I ask her why? Her answer was predictably fuzzy. She did not really know. She just said something along the lines of " everyone wants him blah blah".
The hamster wheel of the female logic.

This is a pattern i have noticed with many women. They gravitate towards the guys that are below them. They need to be the Star in the relationship. The reason chicks pick or dont pick is pure chaos. I try not to take it too personally. For most girls I dont.
Have you not used apps? Seen the analytics on male experience with apps or dating sites?

Her isolated experience and lifestyle choice is a outlier and likely to be a case of low self esteem then somehow a reflection on the western dating practice. The same is argued for marriage because 1 girl in history never got divorce rapey. It is comic relief at best. Not a metric by which one is going to make use of in the current SMP.

MOST IMPORTANTLY:
I asked her why girls ghost after sex. She told me that her besties ghosts men on purpose in order to hurt them. Apparently she was hurt by a guy and now does ghosting as a dominance play. She does it especially to hot guys to mess with their head. Pure chaos man. Evil

They are agents of chaos.
I cannot wait to see the crash that is feminism run a muck. A cesspool wasteland of left overs awaits the future. Its going to be great for troll memes.
 

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The most difficult part is realizing that behind it all.....is just chaos. A storm of fleeting illogical fancies. Their emotional chaos is akin to our sexual appetite. Its overwhelming and monstrous.

There is nothing there behind their eyes. Its like when Joker robbed the bank and then burned the money. Men are Batman. Women are the Joker. Having no rhyme or reason is horrifying.

It is depressing. This is why I am happier when I stay away.
Nah mate. They are harlequin wanting the joker. The bloke who is causing more chaos than she can fathom before being dropped off at 30. Some moron will be in the bushes waiting to marry her.
 
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