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Chaos Theory ( some call it Star Theory) is something I have strongly supported as a dual theory to Hypergamy. Both are valid. This is even more evidence.

I have a female associate who told me that she is turned off by "attractive guys". We were ranking attractive coworkers. She said she friendzones them. She said she will go for the unassuming non traditionally good looking dude.

This is confirmed by seeing her bf. I also know for a fact that she does indeed reject the advances of the cool handsome guys at work.

I ask her why? Her answer was predictably fuzzy. She did not really know. She just said something along the lines of " everyone wants him blah blah".

This is a pattern i have noticed with many women. They gravitate towards the guys that are below them. They need to be the Star in the relationship. The reason chicks pick or dont pick is pure chaos. I try not to take it too personally. For most girls I dont.

MOST IMPORTANTLY:
I asked her why girls ghost after sex. She told me that her besties ghosts men on purpose in order to hurt them. Apparently she was hurt by a guy and now does ghosting as a dominance play. She does it especially to hot guys to mess with their head. Pure chaos man. Evil

They are agents of chaos.
On a fundamental level, any deviation from traditional standards of attraction is typically a sign of underlying psychological issues (i.e. having her heart broken repeatedly by good-looking guys). I don't know if such women are "agents of chaos" or simply dysfunctional, broken individuals.
 
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also your borderline borderlines or outright diagnosed personality disordered people will do this
A "narc" who decides whatever "is already working good" is stealing attention from them will of course go out of their way to damage it to bring attention to themselves.

BTW, this whole "bringing attention to themselves" is EXACTLY why some relationship parters are always admonishing you and attempting to "tear you down"... They want your attention as well as the attention they already get. Isn't "it" crazy?
 

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A "narc" who decides whatever "is already working good" is stealing attention from them will of course go out of their way to damage it to bring attention to themselves.

BTW, this whole "bringing attention to themselves" is EXACTLY why some relationship parters are always admonishing you and attempting to "tear you down"... They want your attention as well as the attention they already get. Isn't "it" crazy?
Current real world case: Amber Heard on Johnny Depp. Even though most of the damages were due to "jealousy" and the fact that she came to "take" from him, she wanted ALL of his attention, all of his riches for herself. This is why "they" attempt to "shrink" the abused person so thoroughly...
 

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Current real world case: Amber Heard on Johnny Depp. Even though most of the damages were due to "jealousy" and the fact that she came to "take" from him, she wanted ALL of his attention, all of his riches for herself. This is why "they" attempt to "shrink" the abused person so thoroughly...
What happened with Johnny deep and amber heard is the same thing that happened with will smith and jayda smith , or brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie .

the problem is that you could see from far away that they are kinda dysfunctional human beings , but them being arrogant thought that you can tame a crazy person .

but as always , crazy people do crazy things :)
 

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What happened with Johnny deep and amber heard is the same thing that happened with will smith and jayda smith , or brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie .

the problem is that you could see from far away that they are kinda dysfunctional human beings , but them being arrogant thought that you can tame a crazy person .

but as always , crazy people do crazy things :)
"The chaos theory" sums it up perfectly.
 

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What happened with Johnny deep and amber heard is the same thing that happened with will smith and jayda smith , or brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie .

the problem is that you could see from far away that they are kinda dysfunctional human beings , but them being arrogant thought that you can tame a crazy person .

but as always , crazy people do crazy things :)
That "type" of woman. With Jada even TUPAC said he would never be able to "tame" Jada. TUPAC knows how to "handle" LEGIT WH0RES, and HE was not going to try to be with Jada because of how she is.
 

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A "narc" who decides whatever "is already working good" is stealing attention from them will of course go out of their way to damage it to bring attention to themselves.

BTW, this whole "bringing attention to themselves" is EXACTLY why some relationship parters are always admonishing you and attempting to "tear you down"... They want your attention as well as the attention they already get. Isn't "it" crazy?
ya its crazy. Not too sure if I was a trained psychologist would I knowingly take this on, willingly in my personal life for free.

Could I stay sane or would crazy drag me down?
 

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ya its crazy. Not too sure if I was a trained psychologist would I knowingly take this on, willingly in my personal life for free.

Could I stay sane or would crazy drag me down?
Crazy people will tear your down and make you doubt yourself really really bad .

look at Johnny deep , will smith and brad Pitt . Super successful guys , good looking , etc . Their toxic wives basically destroyed them and now they are only the shell of whom they were .

I am sure that they will recover though , but if a crazy person can do that to someone as top of those guys , imagine what a crazy person can do to a normal guy
 

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Chaos Theory ( some call it Star Theory) is something I have strongly supported as a dual theory to Hypergamy. Both are valid. This is even more evidence.

I have a female associate who told me that she is turned off by "attractive guys". We were ranking attractive coworkers. She said she friendzones them. She said she will go for the unassuming non traditionally good looking dude.

This is confirmed by seeing her bf. I also know for a fact that she does indeed reject the advances of the cool handsome guys at work.

I ask her why? Her answer was predictably fuzzy. She did not really know. She just said something along the lines of " everyone wants him blah blah".

This is a pattern i have noticed with many women. They gravitate towards the guys that are below them. They need to be the Star in the relationship. The reason chicks pick or dont pick is pure chaos. I try not to take it too personally. For most girls I dont.
We are calibrating to attract the most hypergamous women. We repel the women looking for safety and security primarily, whether post-epiphany or just were always that way and hated rejection.
 

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On a fundamental level, any deviation from traditional standards of attraction is typically a sign of underlying psychological issues (i.e. having her heart broken repeatedly by good-looking guys). I don't know if such women are "agents of chaos" or simply dysfunctional, broken individuals.
Im not sure. I tend to see it that way as well, but technically its a sign of self-preservation and the big picture over just hedonistic desire. My gut feeling is total revulsion when I see this though, most dramatic when I lose out on a "love triangle" of sorts to some scrub...I don't feel rejected at all, I feel like I dodged a huge bullet.
 
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The most difficult part is realizing that behind it all.....is just chaos. A storm of fleeting illogical fancies. Their emotional chaos is akin to our sexual appetite. Its overwhelming and monstrous.

There is nothing there behind their eyes. Its like when Joker robbed the bank and then burned the money. Men are Batman. Women are the Joker. Having no rhyme or reason is horrifying.

It is depressing. This is why I am happier when I stay away.
Yet, we all know women that were reasonably content with some man and had a happy relationship. Rarely a perfect man, too.
 

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Im not sure. I tend to see it that way as well, but technically its a sign of self-preservation and the big picture over just hedonistic desire. My gut feeling is total revulsion when I see this though, most dramatic when I lose out on a "love triangle" of sorts to some scrub...I don't feel rejected at all, I feel like I dodged a huge bullet.
She might have been saying you were "of value" and she used the "scrub" to "beat" you with... Some of the babes end up "competing" with the man, that's what the problem was.
 

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Chaos Theory ( some call it Star Theory) is something I have strongly supported as a dual theory to Hypergamy. Both are valid. This is even more evidence.

I have a female associate who told me that she is turned off by "attractive guys". We were ranking attractive coworkers. She said she friendzones them. She said she will go for the unassuming non traditionally good looking dude.

This is confirmed by seeing her bf. I also know for a fact that she does indeed reject the advances of the cool handsome guys at work.

I ask her why? Her answer was predictably fuzzy. She did not really know. She just said something along the lines of " everyone wants him blah blah".

This is a pattern i have noticed with many women. They gravitate towards the guys that are below them. They need to be the Star in the relationship. The reason chicks pick or dont pick is pure chaos. I try not to take it too personally. For most girls I dont.

MOST IMPORTANTLY:
I asked her why girls ghost after sex. She told me that her besties ghosts men on purpose in order to hurt them. Apparently she was hurt by a guy and now does ghosting as a dominance play. She does it especially to hot guys to mess with their head. Pure chaos man. Evil

They are agents of chaos.
I see two issues here:
1) All women have some inherent level of insecurity that never gets better as they get older. In contrast, men's insecurity improves over time as we address our weaknesses in life and learn to ignore the things that we can't change. Women can try to do the same thing, but they never really feel it the way that a man does.
2) Women are more realistic with relationships than most guys realize. They have an inherent ability to quickly categorize a guy as player or provider (on a spectrum, not absolute) and decide if they can work with the guy.

So, my guess is that your friend has lower self-esteem (which she may be able to hide very well) while she has a somewhat realistic view about her chances for a worthwhile relationship with certain men.

With regards to chicks ghosting, it's not a vindictive thing. Women auto-reject when they don't see a reasonable chance of things working. They might sleep with a guy once or twice just to get him out of their system (they suffer from the same "what if" regrets that guys do). Then, they'll ghost him because they don't want to try to "logically" explain something that they feel a guy should inherently understand.

As a guy, you need to figure out what her perception of you is relative to her. If she acts like she's nervous about offending you, it's an obvious sign that she thinks very-highly of you. You should be building her confidence and bringing her up to your level.

I read so many posts on this board and others about women being random, vindictive, agents of chaos, etc. I really don't buy any of it. Women are very shrewd about relationships. As a guy, you should always try to understand what's in it for her by assessing where she is in life and where she's going (which can change even on a short-term basis or when they're on vacation). A single-mom looking for some help has completely different goals than a recently-divorced 40ish woman who is in her "fear of missing out phase".
 

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She has likely been ruthlessly dumped by Chads in the past and she doesn't like how that feels. Through her abundance (with bluepill simps), she has conditioned herself for easy wins and validation.
If she's realized that Chads do not value her, and therefore has stopped chasing them, I'd say that's to her credit. Shows some good self realization and acceptance of reality. She doesn't have to settle for a simp necessarily, maybe she can just find a decent guy and bond with him. But continuing to want the super alpha guy who insists on spinning ten plates even when married would be foolish.
 

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The most difficult part is realizing that behind it all.....is just chaos. A storm of fleeting illogical fancies. Their emotional chaos is akin to our sexual appetite. Its overwhelming and monstrous.

There is nothing there behind their eyes. Its like when Joker robbed the bank and then burned the money. Men are Batman. Women are the Joker. Having no rhyme or reason is horrifying.

It is depressing. This is why I am happier when I stay away.
Women create drama because they are bored. In a perverse way, they are trying to help the relationship by alleviating the boredom. As a guy, don't be boring and you'll minimize the drama. If you are inherently boring and can't see a way to change it, then you will forever be responding to her drama (reactive), instead creating excitement for her (proactive).
 

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If she's realized that Chads do not value her, and therefore has stopped chasing them, I'd say that's to her credit. Shows some good self realization and acceptance of reality. She doesn't have to settle for a simp necessarily, maybe she can just find a decent guy and bond with him. But continuing to want the super alpha guy who insists on spinning ten plates even when married would be foolish.
"simp"... They made most rappers, and pro atheletes "simps"... Let alone a responsible married man...
 

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We are calibrating to attract the most hypergamous women. We repel the women looking for safety and security primarily, whether post-epiphany or just were always that way and hated rejection.
I read "high maintenance women" when I saw "most hypergamous women" in your post.


That can't be true?
 

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I read "high maintenance women" when I saw "most hypergamous women" in your post.


That can't be true?
It's very true. You are not going to find safety and security in people that present themselves as willing to walk over problems, avoiding exclusivity, and having lots of other female options
 
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