Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Mission: Help Luke Sywalker get laid before he turns 31!

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CrunchyNut said:
Harsh but fair in my opinion ^^

Stop blaming things like your posture, even hunchbacks get sex, maybe it's something else. It sounds to me like you need to get a backbone, sure, but not necessarily in the physical sense.

You have to move out of your parents house, and as importantly stop listening to your dad for advice on which girls you should date/f**k.

"I have a girl, that's not that attractive, where I could have, and still get laid with if I want to, but I dont think I'm interested in anything more than a friendship level unless she really comes on to me strong or something. As you have probably guessed, I'm not that gun-go about getting laid with anyone, but I am interested in learning everything there is to learn about women in general and how to be a Don Juan."

This makes it sound almost like you dont particularly want sex. Ask yourself if you really actually have a sex drive? If not, why not? Some of your excuses almost sound like cover ups for what may be the actual problem. Ask yourself why it REALLY is that you are still a virgin.
Not harsh enough. Unfortunately I can't reach through this damn fiber optic cable and actually kick him in the @$$.

I think the big problem here, is a lack of or a defined sense of direction. Life with no real purpose other then to survive. I feel even more annoyed b/c I'm a huge starwars fan :nono: . Jawa would be a more fitting handle.
 

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ExploringOne said:
^^^Follow up on my last post.
I was wondering if you understood the situation completely.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I was wondering if you understood the situation completely.
Yeah, first post was made under certain assumption, which proved to be false.

I really should follow the advice I give out about aSSuming things.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
You should live a week in my shoes. My mom is very close to the Lord, and the eyes of God are in every place beholding the evil and the good.
Luke, I lived 13 years in your shoes, and I still got a bl0wjob by the time I was 17 (and yes I was still living at home). Quit making excuses for your lack of motivation.
 

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I actually have a physical response to religion. The absurd stupidity of organized religion makes me sick.

Holocaust, Inquisition, The Crusades, The Jihads. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
So why are you torturing yourself by attempting to get laid and hanging out in a forum that would be considered debase by most religions?
The subconcious or unconcious mind is always in a state of conflict with most interactions on how to have sex with a desireable woman or if it's possible. This creates a perpetual cognitive strain that's always there.

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Sounds like you need more of an internal self esteem boost. Besides, there doesn't seem to be much difference (if any) leading women on without intention as with sleeping around without intention, is it. How does doing either respect your faith?
Yes. There is no mortal sin if you dont have sex. Every interaction with an attractive opposite sex could have 'I want to have sex with her' somewhere in the subconcious or unconcious mind. To actually act out such a desire, given opportunity, is another story.
 

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Do what you want Luke. But don't delude yourself in to not acting because it's "what you want". I am sure you've looked deep down inside and decided you don't want to get laid. I hope that's the case because you will regret your decision if you aren't being true to yourself. Good luck man.
 

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ExploringOne said:
Ok,

I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...

GET AN ESCORT!
Flamed?! Why?

Still better than going all AFC when on a dry spell!

I never did it, but it's not because of any conviction. It's just that the cheap ones are expensive enough for me.

ExploringOne said:
If there is a moral objection to "paying for sex" well, think of it this way...
I still get what I want without paying, but if I wanted and have the $ I would definitely pay. Also, I strongly believe we pay one way or another. One is covert paying, the other is overt. But we are always paying for it. Time is money, remember that.

Think about if the regular AFC decided to not marry and spend all his good career income on escorts. This guy would have some amazing sex without any responsability. If you come to think of it, it becomes a lot cheaper than marrying a woman with little-to-none interest on you and having to bargain sex with more and more purchases.

ExploringOne said:
If you could have a BJ from an hb.10 for $5 would you do it? Would you just give her the $5? Most men would. ( I never had to pay for sex, but i have gotten lapdances at titi bars :) )
Yes. It was just $5 and I was free from all the gaming and stuff. Little time spent, goal achieved. The BJ paid itself, in fact :D

ExploringOne said:
Most, at some point spend tons of money on women, whether indirectly, buying those $400 shoes so you look good, or directly, buying her that small piece of jewelry... whatever the case, morality has no hold here.
Morality has no hold on anything. It's just a front.

I do things for people because I plan to get something in return, even if it's loyalty.

I am the best friend in the world, just because I know if sh1t happens I better have someone to help me. Also, if my friends get screwed I do anything to help them too.

If you think about it, it's better this way. Everyone benefits. (but it's morally incorrect to say that, as people want to believe that we do things out of love or something like this)


But I guess the guy is not going to nail no one because of religious convictions... I will not go there.
 
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CrunchyNut said:
Harsh but fair in my opinion ^^

Stop blaming things like your posture, even hunchbacks get sex, maybe it's something else. It sounds to me like you need to get a backbone, sure, but not necessarily in the physical sense.
Of course not. As you can see you are quoting from parts of this threads that are actually quite old. I've updated this thread myself just recently.
I no longer hold the view that posture is directly keeping me back from sex.

CrunchyNut said:
You have to move out of your parents house, and as importantly stop listening to your dad for advice on which girls you should date/f**k.
This was not a usual date -- it was a sex hookup date with a loose cannon.

CrunchyNut said:
"I have a girl, that's not that attractive, where I could have, and still get laid with if I want to, but I dont think I'm interested in anything more than a friendship level unless she really comes on to me strong or something. As you have probably guessed, I'm not that gun-go about getting laid with anyone, but I am interested in learning everything there is to learn about women in general and how to be a Don Juan."

This makes it sound almost like you dont particularly want sex. Ask yourself if you really actually have a sex drive? If not, why not? Some of your excuses almost sound like cover ups for what may be the actual problem. Ask yourself why it REALLY is that you are still a virgin.
This particular girl ceases to exist in my life. A few 'friends' were nuked out of my life in November, 2006. There is currently no one, I can think of right now who would want to have sex with me point blanc. But, officially, I'm not going to pursue pity sex on the internet - which would be the only type of sex I'd be interested in pursuing.

Again, you are talking about an old post. An offical reading when I was aggressively pursuing a casual hookup on November, 2006, was that I could not continue with it. It had nothing to do with my dad. If I really wanted to pursue that road, I could have told my dad nothing, make up an excuse she was a Real-Estate client and I was showing her homes, and did whatever it is I wanted to do. My dad only works to confirm my own fears and anxieties towards pursuing that goal.

Since November 30th, 2006, there has not been any official movement towards looking at any blatant casual hook-up to get laid with * anyone * who wants to pity **** me, although the idea of it in the context of a relationship has not been ruled out. Since I'm unable to get a viable relationship due to other priorities in my life, such as making enough money to be independent, thus I remain sexless to this time.

I know I have very strong religious considerations, but it's the easiest and most conveniant reason to use. I prefer to use other reasons above for now and only use that as a last resort.
 
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Luke, you have your convictions - don't let anyone stray you from what you value!!

Getting a hor is easy - you can even pay for a hor as a last resort but it seems you want more than that!

It is natural for a man to pursue women - so I encourage you to do this but it should be on your terms and not anyone elses, including your mother or guys on this forum!
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
You should live a week in my shoes. My mom is very close to the Lord, and the eyes of God are in every place beholding the evil and the good. Everything you do is being recorded in books. Of course my mom would know that as the Lord would reveal anything contrary to her, although she's not going to directly intervene, she'd just be 'in on it'.

Anyway, yeah, you could say that 'getting laid' is a serious breach (mortal sin) with respect to my faith where it is calculated and deliberate with the expectation to seek forgiveness afterwards and evade any consequences, but getting married and 'getting laid' with your wife is not a breach, and is in fact encouraged.

So, in one sence you are right, it's a vain ego-trip to seek out opportunities of 'temptation' if there is absolutely no intent to follow up with them whenever they do arise as we saw in November - but just knowing that I could have gotten laid or could get laid still makes me feel good or sexually desired, which is certainly not sinful in itself but healthy and normal.
I can't even begin to tell you how full of **** your mother is. Nowhere in the original testament does it say not to have sex. In fact it is encouraged for men to have sex. Read it sometime.

And as far as blaming this on them. ITS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT.

Get the hell out already. no one has you chained in the freaking basement. You are a prisoner BY YOUR OWN WILL. You can't change your damn parents, but you can put up with the BS for a short while as you run out the door and begin life.

You are not liveng Luke. You are dying, your life is shrinking because you are a coward. Until you decide to reprogarm yourself from the beginning (lke a kid) and learn some good things (like how to socialize, make money, proper nutrition if you are a gym goer) you won't really be or do anything mith the time you have left.


Well see yo pal. I don't have time for this anymore. I tried to help you out and tell you the truth to shock your mind to thinkning just a little bit. You're on yor own now, beyond my help as I can see.

If you are gonna pull your head out of your ass anytime soon and make the jump in getting the hell away from home, give me a PM and I can send you some great motivational material, and some stuff about business and bobybuilding from peope that actually do what they say in their respective fields. I'm sure the other members here will be extreemsy willing to help you out if you actually DO SOMETHING.


Oh well. Sucks to be you Luke.

-CMD
 

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ExploringOne said:
After reading your posts I've come to the conclusion that you're a very conflicted guy, with ALOT of social anxiety.
Its called being yellowbellied, cowardly. Stop making it 'politically correct'. Say i t like it is. he's a damn coward.

You want to get women? Then you need to get the rest of your life into shape first.
:rockon: *Rocky Theme Song*

Do something, anything, but become independent. It is a red flag to a girl if you are living at home with your mother.

At this point, getting laid should be on the back burner.

Get the rest of your life in order... move out of your parents home for christ sake!
Marvelous advice. Couldn't have said it better.. wait a minute.

The truth in your case is such, that aside from pity sex you're not likely to get anything else.
If I was a betting man I would wager that in his present state he's not going te got any pity sex. not from a normal girl. Maybe from a tweeker or a fattie. And I mean FAT.

Let's review;

1.You live at home at 30 years?
2.You're not financially independent?
3.Curfew, contrelling mother. God-Warrior. (God Warrior: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2681739)
4.No social circle. Which means basically no fun or connections with other people.
Stop worrying about your posture, and start actually going out there into the real world.
Don't forget to turn off the internet and stop giving advice about women, relationships and people in general to the more naive members here.

Drop the whole internet dating thing. It hasn't worked for the past how many years? Why do you think it'll start working all of a sudden now?
If you keep doing what you've been doing, you will always get what you've been getting.
-Some smart guy who learnt form his mistakes
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Of course not. As you can see you are quoting from parts of this threads that are actually quite old. I've updated this thread myself just recently.
I no longer hold the view that posture is directly keeping me back from sex.

This was not a usual date -- it was a sex hookup date with a loose cannon.

This particular girl ceases to exist in my life. A few 'friends' were nuked out of my life in November, 2006. There is currently no one, I can think of right now who would want to have sex with me point blanc. But, officially, I'm not going to pursue pity sex on the internet - which would be the only type of sex I'd be interested in pursuing.

Again, you are talking about an old post. An offical reading when I was aggressively pursuing a casual hookup on November, 2006, was that I could not continue with it. It had nothing to do with my dad. If I really wanted to pursue that road, I could have told my dad nothing, make up an excuse she was a Real-Estate client and I was showing her homes, and did whatever it is I wanted to do. My dad only works to confirm my own fears and anxieties towards pursuing that goal.

Since November 30th, 2006, there has not been any official movement towards looking at any blatant casual hook-up to get laid with * anyone * who wants to pity **** me, although the idea of it in the context of a relationship has not been ruled out. Since I'm unable to get a viable relationship due to other priorities in my life, such as making enough money to be independent, thus I remain sexless to this time.

I know I have very strong religious considerations, but it's the easiest and most conveniant reason to use. I prefer to use other reasons above for now and only use that as a last resort.

You know, you should really be interested in politics. I read all that and it said almost nothing.

Except for one thing which I have understood very clearly. You make excuses. Your post is mental masturbation. Its a delay. You don't want to answer any questions directly. This indicates a cowardly behaviour. That and you procrastinate, if you ha to answer a question you might have to think deeply and consider things. Alo when you consider, you might end up thinking and thus there is a chance of being wrong.


You got one messed up ego pal. I told you this before. You got your ego talking for you.

This results in the cowardly behaviour as well as your inability to act (your ego protecto you from imaginary harm like getting shot down while making a move). Also, you got no willpower. This is not your fault. It is your mother and father's fault. One can only have so much strength until the bastards finally wear you down.

But its still up to you to change it. If you want to get your own life and get laid you have to actually pursue it. In order to get laid, yo have to go and get laid! If you want to get an apartment you hae te get an apartment. Go and buy the damn thing.

Its not gonna appear magically.

You have to do things to get results. You have to not do things to get nothing.

Quiz time: Based on the lime above. Why did you get nothing? Why did you not get laid?
 
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Call_Me_Daddy said:
Being a vuluntary prisoner huraaah! You go Luke! Destroy yourself good!
There are many differing personalities on this forum - we ca give our input but it is NOT for us to live someone else's life and change their convictions!!

For example, say Luke had sex with a hor and got herpes/aids - then what? Will you be the one to suffer the consequences? NO!!!! People are responsible for their own decisions and thus will face the consequences of the choices they make!! Give him at least that!!! Luke is not you!!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
There are many differing personalities on this forum - we ca give our input but it is NOT for us to live someone else's life and change their convictions!!
I don't even think he has any convictions, which is why he's in this state.

For example, say Luke had sex with a hor and got herpes/aids - then what?
He's 31. By te time AIDS catches up with him he will be dead. He's already lived half of his life.

People are responsible for their own decisions and thus will face the consequences of the choices they make!!
Yup. And I outlined the cause and effect in my posts too. He's getting the consequences of inaction and being a coward, and a vuluntary prisoner of living with a God Warrior.

God Warrior: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2681739
Give him at least that!!!
I've given him plenty. So have others here. He hasn't done anything with it.
Luke is not you!!
Good thing you told me that. I was confused for a moment there.
 

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Call_Me_Daddy said:
Its called being yellowbellied, cowardly. Stop making it 'politically correct'. Say i t like it is. he's a damn coward.



:rockon: *Rocky Theme Song*



Marvelous advice. Couldn't have said it better.. wait a minute.



If I was a betting man I would wager that in his present state he's not going te got any pity sex. not from a normal girl. Maybe from a tweeker or a fattie. And I mean FAT.





Don't forget to turn off the internet and stop giving advice about women, relationships and people in general to the more naive members here.



If you keep doing what you've been doing, you will always get what you've been getting.
-Some smart guy who learnt form his mistakes
It's all been said before.
 

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Call_Me_Daddy said:
Then we are all in agreement.
Oh, we all agree but it's just regurgitated verbiage. Luke is comfortable (or at least compliant) with his lifestyle. We can give all the reasons for him to consider an alternative but it's all moot until he chooses to make an adjustment.
 
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