"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Might try acting aloof for a change....

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this girl allegedly wanted me....we hit it off the first time we chilled....theres this other guy texting her and ****....and i was home this weekend and she went to his frat both nights, im assuming getting with him.

so pretty much im gonna act with a "**** it, if you want me, you need to earn me" attitude.

good idea?

advice, tips, personal experience?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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bump....idk what to do...im usually mad nice and when me and a girl like eachother i only like have eyes for her...

im thinkin the next time we r at a party together im gonna talk to every girl there and see what she does....
 
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theguy351 said:
this girl allegedly wanted me....we hit it off the first time we chilled....theres this other guy texting her and ****....and i was home this weekend and she went to his frat both nights, im assuming getting with him.

so pretty much im gonna act with a "**** it, if you want me, you need to earn me" attitude.

good idea?
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Not a good idea if you want to sleep with her. The other guy probably let her know he wanted to sleep with her and got some. If you don't care about getting some, then go for acting aloof.
 
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If you haven't built any attraction, there's nothing she wants to "earn"
 
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From the sounds of it, you are thinking about sex without having shown her you were remotely interested in her vagina. You chilled one afternoon. I chill with my sister at starbucks...See what I did there? Obviously I don't want my sister, else this would be a fvcked up world...

You want to fvck her, meet with her again and make some moves. You want her to be your friend, you are already done buddy...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Vendetta081789 said:
From the sounds of it, you are thinking about sex without having shown her you were remotely interested in her vagina. You chilled one afternoon. I chill with my sister at starbucks...See what I did there? Obviously I don't want my sister, else this would be a fvcked up world...

You want to fvck her, meet with her again and make some moves. You want her to be your friend, you are already done buddy...
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no, actually we chilled one night, got bombed and then we were all over eachother....im pretty positive i would have at least gotten head, btu when we went back to her room, 2 other dudes came cause they thought we were just gonna chill....

so your saying i should not act aloof and just prove that im the best guy for her? then **** her brains out?
 
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If she was practically all over you, she will do it again. Get some alone time with her and slam it.
 
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theguy351 said:
this girl allegedly wanted me....we hit it off the first time we chilled....theres this other guy texting her and ****....and i was home this weekend and she went to his frat both nights, im assuming getting with him.

so pretty much im gonna act with a "**** it, if you want me, you need to earn me" attitude.

good idea?

advice, tips, personal experience?
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If you want to fauck her, then just make a move on her. You only play hard to get if you want a relationship with a woman. Get the latest DVD and invite her to your room for a screening :cool:
 
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DonJaunStupidity said:
If you want to fauck her, then just make a move on her. You only play hard to get if you want a relationship with a woman. Get the latest DVD and invite her to your room for a screening :cool:
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im thinking i might want a relationship...should i **** her first or at least move in, and then play hard to get after? idk, i havent had a relationship ever....
 
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Not necessairly, better move is to be seen with other hot chicks and keep your communication with her to a minimum.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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BipedGod said:
Not necessairly, better move is to be seen with other hot chicks and keep your communication with her to a minimum.
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hmm....thats kind of what i meant...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Just go for it with her. Ask her to hang out.
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ya...

also she im's me alot on aim.....and we chat for a bit.

i dont really im her until she ims me, should I start the convo or just let her start them?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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