"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Might try acting aloof for a change....

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this girl allegedly wanted me....we hit it off the first time we chilled....theres this other guy texting her and ****....and i was home this weekend and she went to his frat both nights, im assuming getting with him.

so pretty much im gonna act with a "**** it, if you want me, you need to earn me" attitude.

good idea?

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bump....idk what to do...im usually mad nice and when me and a girl like eachother i only like have eyes for her...

im thinkin the next time we r at a party together im gonna talk to every girl there and see what she does....
 
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theguy351 said:
this girl allegedly wanted me....we hit it off the first time we chilled....theres this other guy texting her and ****....and i was home this weekend and she went to his frat both nights, im assuming getting with him.

so pretty much im gonna act with a "**** it, if you want me, you need to earn me" attitude.

good idea?
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Not a good idea if you want to sleep with her. The other guy probably let her know he wanted to sleep with her and got some. If you don't care about getting some, then go for acting aloof.
 
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If you haven't built any attraction, there's nothing she wants to "earn"
 
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From the sounds of it, you are thinking about sex without having shown her you were remotely interested in her vagina. You chilled one afternoon. I chill with my sister at starbucks...See what I did there? Obviously I don't want my sister, else this would be a fvcked up world...

You want to fvck her, meet with her again and make some moves. You want her to be your friend, you are already done buddy...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Vendetta081789 said:
From the sounds of it, you are thinking about sex without having shown her you were remotely interested in her vagina. You chilled one afternoon. I chill with my sister at starbucks...See what I did there? Obviously I don't want my sister, else this would be a fvcked up world...

You want to fvck her, meet with her again and make some moves. You want her to be your friend, you are already done buddy...
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no, actually we chilled one night, got bombed and then we were all over eachother....im pretty positive i would have at least gotten head, btu when we went back to her room, 2 other dudes came cause they thought we were just gonna chill....

so your saying i should not act aloof and just prove that im the best guy for her? then **** her brains out?
 
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If she was practically all over you, she will do it again. Get some alone time with her and slam it.
 
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theguy351 said:
this girl allegedly wanted me....we hit it off the first time we chilled....theres this other guy texting her and ****....and i was home this weekend and she went to his frat both nights, im assuming getting with him.

so pretty much im gonna act with a "**** it, if you want me, you need to earn me" attitude.

good idea?

advice, tips, personal experience?
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If you want to fauck her, then just make a move on her. You only play hard to get if you want a relationship with a woman. Get the latest DVD and invite her to your room for a screening :cool:
 
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If you want to fauck her, then just make a move on her. You only play hard to get if you want a relationship with a woman. Get the latest DVD and invite her to your room for a screening :cool:
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im thinking i might want a relationship...should i **** her first or at least move in, and then play hard to get after? idk, i havent had a relationship ever....
 
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Not necessairly, better move is to be seen with other hot chicks and keep your communication with her to a minimum.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Not necessairly, better move is to be seen with other hot chicks and keep your communication with her to a minimum.
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hmm....thats kind of what i meant...
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Just go for it with her. Ask her to hang out.
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ya...

also she im's me alot on aim.....and we chat for a bit.

i dont really im her until she ims me, should I start the convo or just let her start them?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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