Scuba Steve
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Any thoughts on going MGTOW while trying to get over wife?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Murk
Master Don Juan
No idea what men going their own way really translates to. But I'll say depending on how soon you broke up, you need to take some time out, spin some cheap plates, work on yourself and re-calibrate. If the relationship is totally dead and no way to rekindle, bang women and better yourself. It's the played out cliche you will hear here, because it works.
CBear
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It's basically spinning plates from what I know. Had my assumptions about it at first and thought it was stupid until I talked to a guy I work with and has a big following on social media.
Single, young dad of a couple girls. & from what I got out of it, mgtow is basically men who get fked financially by a woman/women due to marriage or a variety of other reasons when the women decide the "spark is gone" or some ****.
These are basically guys telling other guys to avoid marriage in all cases as well as LTR's in most but to continue spinning plates and fking chicks. So basically a similar attitudes a lot of red pill guys already seem to have.
Single, young dad of a couple girls. & from what I got out of it, mgtow is basically men who get fked financially by a woman/women due to marriage or a variety of other reasons when the women decide the "spark is gone" or some ****.
These are basically guys telling other guys to avoid marriage in all cases as well as LTR's in most but to continue spinning plates and fking chicks. So basically a similar attitudes a lot of red pill guys already seem to have.
Masculinity
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There's no such thing as "the one". She's not yours; it's just your turn until the next guy comes in.
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
mrgoodstuff
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It's just focusing on your needs as a man and not making women a priority at all. It's a very fast way of gaining recovery and focus.
ChristopherColumbus
Master Don Juan
MGTOW = not degenerating into a walking dildo for men [and many think they are 'spinning plates'... ha ha.. that's a spin on it for sure]. Rather, do your own thing until you meet an attractive woman who wants a relationship on YOUR terms... or not.
logicallefty
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MGTOW is whatever the fvck you want it to be, key words THEIR OWN way = YOUR OWN WAY. In my opinion it can be anything from extreme munk mode living in the Alaskan woods on one end and not talking to another woman until the day you die... Alllll the way to the other end which IMO would be having a LTR but protecting the sh|t out of everything in life that's important including your money, time, reputation, job, health, children if any, and everything else under the sun in a man's life that is [ should be ] more important to him than any damn woman.
RichardTheFrog
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They kicked me off their forum for saying I still want to have sex with girls.
The fact that they can't even let themselves enjoy prostitutes makes me question their whole group.
Obviously, I never met anyone off their site in person, and not sure I would want to.
The fact that they can't even let themselves enjoy prostitutes makes me question their whole group.
Obviously, I never met anyone off their site in person, and not sure I would want to.
CBear
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That's cause ik for a fact that many guys that say they're "mgtow" are freakin losers who can't get girls or sex in the first place so they decide to go "their own way" out of frustration. Basically just like modern feminism.
The guys that started it, from what I've seen, have lived their lives, got disappointed somehow by women, and decided to better themselves by going their own way. Idk what happens after that but I don't really see anything wrong with that. Go for it op, it'll probably bring you more happiness in the end.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
RangerMIke
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MGTOW goes against nature as much as feminism. But if you are a man and do not want to put up with normal female BS in a world where feminism is considered 'normal'... yea I can totally understand giving up chicks and turning to sex dolls and porn and keeping your money.
I enjoy female contact too much... but have the sense to know not to get burned.. but I think this has come form age. But if you are not willing to get a vasectomy and do not trust yourself not to catch feelings... then you are taking risks with chicks.
I enjoy female contact too much... but have the sense to know not to get burned.. but I think this has come form age. But if you are not willing to get a vasectomy and do not trust yourself not to catch feelings... then you are taking risks with chicks.
RichardTheFrog
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I don't see anything wrong with going through a "phase" like that...
But permanently? No way. You only live once. Why spend it like that?
CBear
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Exactly. Everyone goes through phases like that and that's normal. But it's not okay when one doesn't try to better themselves and basically quit life out of sexual frustration
RichardTheFrog
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It is a very rare guy that is just SO UGLY that he could never attract a woman. Like maybe 1/100. And even he could get rich perhaps.