Scuba Steve
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Any thoughts on going MGTOW while trying to get over wife?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
MGTOW
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Murk
Master Don Juan
No idea what men going their own way really translates to. But I'll say depending on how soon you broke up, you need to take some time out, spin some cheap plates, work on yourself and re-calibrate. If the relationship is totally dead and no way to rekindle, bang women and better yourself. It's the played out cliche you will hear here, because it works.
CBear
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It's basically spinning plates from what I know. Had my assumptions about it at first and thought it was stupid until I talked to a guy I work with and has a big following on social media.
Single, young dad of a couple girls. & from what I got out of it, mgtow is basically men who get fked financially by a woman/women due to marriage or a variety of other reasons when the women decide the "spark is gone" or some ****.
These are basically guys telling other guys to avoid marriage in all cases as well as LTR's in most but to continue spinning plates and fking chicks. So basically a similar attitudes a lot of red pill guys already seem to have.
Single, young dad of a couple girls. & from what I got out of it, mgtow is basically men who get fked financially by a woman/women due to marriage or a variety of other reasons when the women decide the "spark is gone" or some ****.
These are basically guys telling other guys to avoid marriage in all cases as well as LTR's in most but to continue spinning plates and fking chicks. So basically a similar attitudes a lot of red pill guys already seem to have.
Masculinity
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There's no such thing as "the one". She's not yours; it's just your turn until the next guy comes in.
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
mrgoodstuff
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It's just focusing on your needs as a man and not making women a priority at all. It's a very fast way of gaining recovery and focus.
ChristopherColumbus
Master Don Juan
MGTOW = not degenerating into a walking dildo for men [and many think they are 'spinning plates'... ha ha.. that's a spin on it for sure]. Rather, do your own thing until you meet an attractive woman who wants a relationship on YOUR terms... or not.
logicallefty
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MGTOW is whatever the fvck you want it to be, key words THEIR OWN way = YOUR OWN WAY. In my opinion it can be anything from extreme munk mode living in the Alaskan woods on one end and not talking to another woman until the day you die... Alllll the way to the other end which IMO would be having a LTR but protecting the sh|t out of everything in life that's important including your money, time, reputation, job, health, children if any, and everything else under the sun in a man's life that is [ should be ] more important to him than any damn woman.
RichardTheFrog
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They kicked me off their forum for saying I still want to have sex with girls.
The fact that they can't even let themselves enjoy prostitutes makes me question their whole group.
Obviously, I never met anyone off their site in person, and not sure I would want to.
The fact that they can't even let themselves enjoy prostitutes makes me question their whole group.
Obviously, I never met anyone off their site in person, and not sure I would want to.
CBear
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That's cause ik for a fact that many guys that say they're "mgtow" are freakin losers who can't get girls or sex in the first place so they decide to go "their own way" out of frustration. Basically just like modern feminism.
The guys that started it, from what I've seen, have lived their lives, got disappointed somehow by women, and decided to better themselves by going their own way. Idk what happens after that but I don't really see anything wrong with that. Go for it op, it'll probably bring you more happiness in the end.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
RangerMIke
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MGTOW goes against nature as much as feminism. But if you are a man and do not want to put up with normal female BS in a world where feminism is considered 'normal'... yea I can totally understand giving up chicks and turning to sex dolls and porn and keeping your money.
I enjoy female contact too much... but have the sense to know not to get burned.. but I think this has come form age. But if you are not willing to get a vasectomy and do not trust yourself not to catch feelings... then you are taking risks with chicks.
I enjoy female contact too much... but have the sense to know not to get burned.. but I think this has come form age. But if you are not willing to get a vasectomy and do not trust yourself not to catch feelings... then you are taking risks with chicks.
RichardTheFrog
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I don't see anything wrong with going through a "phase" like that...
But permanently? No way. You only live once. Why spend it like that?
CBear
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Exactly. Everyone goes through phases like that and that's normal. But it's not okay when one doesn't try to better themselves and basically quit life out of sexual frustration
RichardTheFrog
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It is a very rare guy that is just SO UGLY that he could never attract a woman. Like maybe 1/100. And even he could get rich perhaps.