Scuba Steve
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Any thoughts on going MGTOW while trying to get over wife?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
MGTOW
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Murk
Master Don Juan
No idea what men going their own way really translates to. But I'll say depending on how soon you broke up, you need to take some time out, spin some cheap plates, work on yourself and re-calibrate. If the relationship is totally dead and no way to rekindle, bang women and better yourself. It's the played out cliche you will hear here, because it works.
CBear
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It's basically spinning plates from what I know. Had my assumptions about it at first and thought it was stupid until I talked to a guy I work with and has a big following on social media.
Single, young dad of a couple girls. & from what I got out of it, mgtow is basically men who get fked financially by a woman/women due to marriage or a variety of other reasons when the women decide the "spark is gone" or some ****.
These are basically guys telling other guys to avoid marriage in all cases as well as LTR's in most but to continue spinning plates and fking chicks. So basically a similar attitudes a lot of red pill guys already seem to have.
Single, young dad of a couple girls. & from what I got out of it, mgtow is basically men who get fked financially by a woman/women due to marriage or a variety of other reasons when the women decide the "spark is gone" or some ****.
These are basically guys telling other guys to avoid marriage in all cases as well as LTR's in most but to continue spinning plates and fking chicks. So basically a similar attitudes a lot of red pill guys already seem to have.
Masculinity
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There's no such thing as "the one". She's not yours; it's just your turn until the next guy comes in.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
mrgoodstuff
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It's just focusing on your needs as a man and not making women a priority at all. It's a very fast way of gaining recovery and focus.
ChristopherColumbus
Master Don Juan
MGTOW = not degenerating into a walking dildo for men [and many think they are 'spinning plates'... ha ha.. that's a spin on it for sure]. Rather, do your own thing until you meet an attractive woman who wants a relationship on YOUR terms... or not.
logicallefty
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MGTOW is whatever the fvck you want it to be, key words THEIR OWN way = YOUR OWN WAY. In my opinion it can be anything from extreme munk mode living in the Alaskan woods on one end and not talking to another woman until the day you die... Alllll the way to the other end which IMO would be having a LTR but protecting the sh|t out of everything in life that's important including your money, time, reputation, job, health, children if any, and everything else under the sun in a man's life that is [ should be ] more important to him than any damn woman.
RichardTheFrog
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They kicked me off their forum for saying I still want to have sex with girls.
The fact that they can't even let themselves enjoy prostitutes makes me question their whole group.
Obviously, I never met anyone off their site in person, and not sure I would want to.
The fact that they can't even let themselves enjoy prostitutes makes me question their whole group.
Obviously, I never met anyone off their site in person, and not sure I would want to.
CBear
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That's cause ik for a fact that many guys that say they're "mgtow" are freakin losers who can't get girls or sex in the first place so they decide to go "their own way" out of frustration. Basically just like modern feminism.
The guys that started it, from what I've seen, have lived their lives, got disappointed somehow by women, and decided to better themselves by going their own way. Idk what happens after that but I don't really see anything wrong with that. Go for it op, it'll probably bring you more happiness in the end.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
RangerMIke
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MGTOW goes against nature as much as feminism. But if you are a man and do not want to put up with normal female BS in a world where feminism is considered 'normal'... yea I can totally understand giving up chicks and turning to sex dolls and porn and keeping your money.
I enjoy female contact too much... but have the sense to know not to get burned.. but I think this has come form age. But if you are not willing to get a vasectomy and do not trust yourself not to catch feelings... then you are taking risks with chicks.
I enjoy female contact too much... but have the sense to know not to get burned.. but I think this has come form age. But if you are not willing to get a vasectomy and do not trust yourself not to catch feelings... then you are taking risks with chicks.
RichardTheFrog
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I don't see anything wrong with going through a "phase" like that...
But permanently? No way. You only live once. Why spend it like that?
CBear
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Exactly. Everyone goes through phases like that and that's normal. But it's not okay when one doesn't try to better themselves and basically quit life out of sexual frustration
RichardTheFrog
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It is a very rare guy that is just SO UGLY that he could never attract a woman. Like maybe 1/100. And even he could get rich perhaps.