lizardking82
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I am really interested in what you have to say about this one.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
This didn't cross my mind, a lot of truth to it now that I think about it though. In my experience, I've never gone past a second date without something sexual happening.Red flag she is basically taking you to her herd to get a review of you and decide if you're worth or not.
Either that or she wants to show her friends her orbiter to brag about it and push her status.
Most of the times its a sign of low interest when it happens before sealing the deal while its a sign of high interest right after.
Being there and know what Im talking about.
I can be wrong of course but a date in day time in a neutral place like a cafeteria with her friends is a trap.
It may be a little bit better if its a night club at night where if she gets you approved maybe you have a chance to score.
Anyway ask yourself is she really found you hot would she be organizing group meetings with her friends or rendev vouzs at her place alone?
Btw in 2017 dating for 4 weeks and nothing sexual happening is a red flag by itself.
I wish it was true but in my opinion there are no such things, if a girl is attracted from you she will fight her friends and family over you and the more they tell her that you're an assh0le the more she will protect you and get close to you.This didn't cross my mind, a lot of truth to it now that I think about it though. In my experience, I've never gone past a second date without something sexual happening.
I think if a girl really was obsessed with OP she would have fvcked him already, but maybe she is a more conservative girl and feels more comfortable with the relationship if her friends (or family) know and approve of who she's dating.
100% agree, haven't met one of those girls either. Not to say they don't exist, but any girl that I know of that comes remotely close was in a relationship and taken by 18.I wish it was true but in my opinion there are no such things, if a girl is attracted from you she will fight her friends and family over you and the more they tell her that you're an assh0le the more she will protect you and get close to you.
Plenty of evidence in everyday life and news.
No sex + public places instead of intimate ones + her friends involved instead of intimacy = low interest.
this is the other thing i'd support doing OPI can be wrong of course but a date in day time in a neutral place like a cafeteria with her friends is a trap.
It may be a little bit better if its a night club at night where if she gets you approved maybe you have a chance to score.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Not necessarily true but I suppose. I've had similar but it was for a 2nd date. It was a family barbecue for her son joining the Marines! I politely declined and made alternate plans with her. No big deal.if you dont meet her friends she will be put off by it and you may not get any. if you do meet her friends she might appreciate it and you might get some. if you meet her friends and she still stonewalls you, time to move on
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
can be cultural, hence you need to adapt and see hwat works for you and your country, if she is virgin and her parents would be pretty angry if she lost it to a random dude, then yes she would hold on that for longer, and since we also lack the age bracket on this whole thing. though he should at least get something from it, her mouth should be working on itThe **** is going on over there in Albania??
No specific **** is goin' on in Albania LOL, but the dating situation is not completely the same as in the Western World in general. Girls are more conservative although in the recent years a lot more ****ing is going on and the value of ***** has gone down quite a lot. Still, you get faced here with some situations that you probably would not in USA or in Europe.The **** is going on over there in Albania??
Theprospect and WhodaresWin with Deesade are right.No specific **** is goin' on in Albania LOL, but the dating situation is not completely the same as in the Western World in general. Girls are more conservative although in the recent years a lot more ****ing is going on and the value of ***** has gone down quite a lot. Still, you get faced here with some situations that you probably would not in USA or in Europe.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.