"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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match.com versus pof, still full of lower quality women?

drift king

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does anyone use match.com?

would you say the quality of women is better than the ones on pof because you have to pay for a subscription or the fact they're internet dating in general equals low quality?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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rhythmic

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I'm sure I read about match.com making fake profiles to generate interest.

POF/OKC are fine. Snog.com is interesting too, lots of replies, just make sure you filter out the illegally young!!
 

The Duke

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I live in a large metro area where there are plenty of women to date but it doesn't make it any easier finding one for long term success!

I used both sites extensively for a few years. I've found good and bad on both of them. But in general I think match had a little higher quality that brought more to the table as far as looks, class, and careers go.

I encountered a little more flakey behavior on pof. I think because it is free, you have girls that are there for attention whoring, not dating which results in more flakeyness.

And yes I've seen those fake profiles on match. They have also been involved in a few court cases over things along those lines.

As I get older, I just don't have the energy to do what it takes to be successful with online dating like I did at one point. I don't care to sort thru all the trash and there is a ton of it on those dating sites.

Put up good pics, have a profile that stands out from the crowd, and send out a ton of messages that are designed to illicit a response like nobody elses. Do all this and you will snag a few.

Regardless of the site, I just don't think online dating is the answer. Its a notch or two better than scoring girls at bars.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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jammer said:
same sh*t different pile
A winner is you! :up:

Most of my online dating "success" actually came from matchmaker. Last I checked, I had over 250 interests. Too bad they charge you to read mail, so I never got to talk to any of them, or see anything beyond the headline they put in the mail. Some nice looking girls, though. The "hot" ones ALWAYS want to go to a bar, party, hang out, or anything involving alcohol, sex, and no accountability. I wish they werent all the spawn of Satan.

To not contact them was probably God saving me from evil. Bwahahaha! :nono:
 
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