"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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match.com versus pof, still full of lower quality women?

drift king

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does anyone use match.com?

would you say the quality of women is better than the ones on pof because you have to pay for a subscription or the fact they're internet dating in general equals low quality?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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rhythmic

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I'm sure I read about match.com making fake profiles to generate interest.

POF/OKC are fine. Snog.com is interesting too, lots of replies, just make sure you filter out the illegally young!!
 

The Duke

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I live in a large metro area where there are plenty of women to date but it doesn't make it any easier finding one for long term success!

I used both sites extensively for a few years. I've found good and bad on both of them. But in general I think match had a little higher quality that brought more to the table as far as looks, class, and careers go.

I encountered a little more flakey behavior on pof. I think because it is free, you have girls that are there for attention whoring, not dating which results in more flakeyness.

And yes I've seen those fake profiles on match. They have also been involved in a few court cases over things along those lines.

As I get older, I just don't have the energy to do what it takes to be successful with online dating like I did at one point. I don't care to sort thru all the trash and there is a ton of it on those dating sites.

Put up good pics, have a profile that stands out from the crowd, and send out a ton of messages that are designed to illicit a response like nobody elses. Do all this and you will snag a few.

Regardless of the site, I just don't think online dating is the answer. Its a notch or two better than scoring girls at bars.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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floydb25

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jammer said:
same sh*t different pile
A winner is you! :up:

Most of my online dating "success" actually came from matchmaker. Last I checked, I had over 250 interests. Too bad they charge you to read mail, so I never got to talk to any of them, or see anything beyond the headline they put in the mail. Some nice looking girls, though. The "hot" ones ALWAYS want to go to a bar, party, hang out, or anything involving alcohol, sex, and no accountability. I wish they werent all the spawn of Satan.

To not contact them was probably God saving me from evil. Bwahahaha! :nono:
 
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