"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Margot Robbie 'Mid Without Makeup' Post Sparks Furious Backlash

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A debate about how beautiful Margot Robbie is has caused an online stir.


Millions have become embroiled in the discussion after some Twitter users agreed that Australian actress and Academy Award nominee Robbie is only "mid" attractive. "Mid" is a slang term, often used in a derogatory way, to suggest something or someone is average or below.

Robbie has been trending recently as she promotes the upcoming Barbie movie, co-starring Ryan Gosling. She's been seen wearing various colorful outfits walking the pink carpets at Barbiepremiere events, often garnering wildly positive reactions from social media users.

However, Twitter user @NicholasVerola became the subject of derision for his take in a tweet that has been viewed 53 million times. Sharing a picture of Robbie supposedly without makeup, he shared his unpopular opinion. "This is [Margot Robbie] without makeup. Definitely mid," he said.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My thoughts are that threads about celebrities belong in the AE forum subsection and not spamming the main DJ section, as they don’t have Any relevance to most men here.
Moved
 

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Seems it caused some disappointment among the male audience. Don't worry you guys I'll take one for the team, I'll **** her.
 
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She's mid by Scottsdale standards even with makeup. Deer eyes and a flat chest. She's attractive but no Barbie.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Seems it caused some disappointment among the male audience. Don't worry you guys I'll take one for the team, I'll **** her.
If you can't make it..dang it..then i MUST do this for the team...reluctantly.


Seriously tho: being a model isnt about what you look like, but what you CAN look like.

I have to say its sobering to see her like that...she suddenly looks like every other woman you'll see on a daily base .but as i said before , its a matter of luck, timing ect. Cheeks ,height, facial features ect. Its more nuanced then it seems but still, as always we get sold an ILLUSION. And now MFs are mad because that woman is actually...human. wow.
 

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I have to say its sobering to see her like that...she suddenly looks like every other woman you'll see on a daily base
I mean really, she's 33. Far from over the hill but probably past the wall for those who buy into most of this manosphere stuff.
She looks like she might be a little freakishly thin in the face, but she probably has to keep her body fat % low.

She's clearly an attractive woman, she's never been my particular cup of tea, but I'm not going to say she's unattractive.
The main thing is, it's a picture. It could just be a bad picture. A good picture can be like good makeup. And a bad picture will look bad, it doesn't matter what she looks like in real life. Or maybe this is what she looks like at her worst. Who cares?
Virtually all women wear makeup, and they usually look better for it, as long as they don't get out of hand with it.
 

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I mean really, she's 33. Far from over the hill but probably past the wall for those who buy into most of this manosphere stuff.
At 33, Margot Robbie she has about 600 good days left to get pregnant, After that, she has another 600 OK days to get pregnant. She has been married for 7 years so she doesn’t have to worry about finding a husband.

I think the only thing the manosphere cares about is a woman’s fertility. ‘Past the wall” just means “ability to get pregnant“ for single childless men.

Imagine a 45 year old man, rich, divorced, with 4 kids. He meets a decent looking 39 year old woman who wants to go Asia with him, Would he say “no, she is past the wall?” Of course not, because he already got kids from another woman. Now imagine a 45 year old man, rich, divorced, with 0 kids. He meets a decent looking 39 year old woman who wants to go to Asia with him. He would say “past the wall” in 2 seconds.

How man behaves with a woman depends on whether he has kids and her fertility,

She's clearly an attractive woman, she's never been my particular cup of tea, but I'm not going to say she's unattractive.
The main thing is, it's a picture. It could just be a bad picture. A good picture can be like good makeup. And a bad picture will look bad, it doesn't matter what she looks like in real life. Or maybe this is what she looks like at her worst. Who cares?
Virtually all women wear makeup, and they usually look better for it, as long as they don't get out of hand with it.
I agree she is attractive and it could be a bad picture.
 

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She is elite tier for a 33 year old white woman. Face is symmetrical, good skin, very few wrinkles, nice eyes. Solid peak 9, looks 8ish now.

She also has perfect teeth and significantly above average fitness compared to other 33 year old western women.

Post some hotter make-up free women. I want to see these 10s.
 

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I think the only thing the manosphere cares about is a woman’s fertility. ‘Past the wall” just means “ability to get pregnant“ for single childless men.
You make a good point. I've always thought "the wall" referred to when women lose that youthful 18-24 year old fresh glow appearance that they have. When they hit the wall they start becoming invisible. You're right that 45 year old rich guy who wants to have a kid will be thinking about age. But I've always thought the average manosphere reader didn't really even acknowledge that women might become pregnant, they think they're basically sex toys that for their physical amusement.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You make a good point. I've always thought "the wall" referred to when women lose that youthful 18-24 year old fresh glow appearance that they have. When they hit the wall they start becoming invisible. You're right that 45 year old rich guy who wants to have a kid will be thinking about age. But I've always thought the average manosphere reader didn't really even acknowledge that women might become pregnant, they think they're basically sex toys that for their physical amusement.
How many women acknowledge that a man has no say in whether the pregnancy is carried to term?
 

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I think we may know why they didn't select someone hotter

 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I keep thinking of the song Im a Barbie girl in a barbie world, wud watch movie if margot sings it
 

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I keep thinking of the song Im a Barbie girl in a barbie world, wud watch movie if margot sings it
It's I'm a material girl in a material world lol
 

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Spoiler alert, most of these celebrities and regular woman don’t look that great without make-up. It‘s just one of the tools women have to keep up the façade. Just like push-up bras and yoga pants. Remember they have make-up artist and entire teams to tweak their looks. Funny how the social media mob loses its mind if you don’t worship their idols. Beauty is subjective. The movie has a huge feminist bent anyway. Ken is portrayed as an idiot because that’s popular these days. The original Barbie would have probably smashed G.I. Joe anyway :rofl: Surprised they didn’t pick Lizzo instead of Margot Robbie to be honest.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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