Manipulation books

[ricorico]

Can anyone recommend a good book on manipulation. I am not looking for this in terms of relationships. But more for business and getting people to do what you want.

 

[apusislaya]

your boss probably manipulates you. they all do. reason for that is so that you do good work, and work it hard, and do things for him for free, for little compensation. Manipulation = commanding a slave. Though unlike beating a slave with a bat to make him do things, with manipulation the other dude thinks he's free.

Manipulation is going on all over this world. Every day, every hour, every minute.

I never done it, but I'm pretty sure it's not what God intended. I'm pretty sure it's what evil is.

do it to people that deserve it man. Hot gold digging turkeys, and bosses, and government officials. People that are too stuck up in reality.

 

[apusislaya]

lol

people who do manipulate rely on ethics and other codes and BS to keep the impressionable from learning these powers of mass control.


manipulation is evil, don't do it. instead I'll tell you what you need to do. do this ................


I'm laughing my ass off as I type this. Because the idea that manipulation is evil IS an opinion people that do manipulate tell you, and all you doing is repeating it lol. That's funny to me. This whole world is full of sheep, that require manipulation to maintain the balance in the herd. The sheep are told manipulation is evil, by the shepherds.

That's all I'm gonna tell you lol.

 

[KontrollerX]

48 Laws of Power

 

[theunflushables]

Manipulation is quite unethical. Go with persuasion. Pick up the book 48 laws of power. It gives a big insight on that whole type of world.

But, isn't persuasion a manipulation of someones thought proccess? I mean I could "persuade" you with force or "persuade you with words", either way I've manipultated your thinking.

And to those who think manipulation is evil, who taught you that? Religious leaders and figures, teachers, parents, authority figures? They're all people in power who want to keep their power and keep you subservient, a form of manipulation in itself.

But as Luke!! and KX said, read 48 Laws of Power.

 

[apusislaya]

"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."

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None of us knows something because someone told us it is true.
None of us want to have a boat, a car, a house, just like Dave has it or better.
None of us want money, pvssy, fame, etc.



In fact, none of us has ever agreed with popular public opinion to keep our face.


None of us has ever been manipulated, lol. :crackup:




~beeaaa , beeeeaaaaah

 

[DJDamage]

"How to Win Friends and Influence People".

 

[RazorAzoth]

"How to Win Friends and Influence People".

THE most recommended book on dealing with people. I agree.

 

[ready123]

THE most recommended book on dealing with people. I agree.

get "How to Have Confidence and Power in Dealing with People" by Les Giblin instead. Same underlying principle (people are ego based), better clarification and details on how to apply this concept to your social life, and practically no filler. Meanwhile, almost half of Carnegie's book is drawn out stories from the 1930's

 

[DJDamage]

Meanwhile, almost half of Carnegie's book is drawn out stories from the 1930's

It does not matter.

People needs and wants haven't changed much in the past 70+ years and the rules can and still be applied today. It is a testament as to why the book is still around in circulation.

 

[ready123]

that's why I think the other book is better. it focuses entirely on the rules, in greater detail and clarity, and doesn't use long anachronistic stories to try to hype up the reader

I own both books by the way. Carnegie's book is more popular, but conceptually, it's also a little more vague, more incomplete version of Giblin's book with a ton of fluff

 

[Desert Fox]

i'd love to read about manipulation. i read carnegie's book allready.