"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Manipulation books

ricorico

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Can anyone recommend a good book on manipulation. I am not looking for this in terms of relationships. But more for business and getting people to do what you want.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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your boss probably manipulates you. they all do. reason for that is so that you do good work, and work it hard, and do things for him for free, for little compensation. Manipulation = commanding a slave. Though unlike beating a slave with a bat to make him do things, with manipulation the other dude thinks he's free.

Manipulation is going on all over this world. Every day, every hour, every minute.

I never done it, but I'm pretty sure it's not what God intended. I'm pretty sure it's what evil is.

do it to people that deserve it man. Hot gold digging turkeys, and bosses, and government officials. People that are too stuck up in reality.
 

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:) lol

people who do manipulate rely on ethics and other codes and BS to keep the impressionable from learning these powers of mass control.


manipulation is evil, don't do it. instead I'll tell you what you need to do. do this ................


I'm laughing my ass off as I type this. Because the idea that manipulation is evil IS an opinion people that do manipulate tell you, and all you doing is repeating it lol. That's funny to me. This whole world is full of sheep, that require manipulation to maintain the balance in the herd. The sheep are told manipulation is evil, by the shepherds.

That's all I'm gonna tell you lol. :whistle:
 

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Luke!! said:
Manipulation is quite unethical. Go with persuasion. Pick up the book 48 laws of power. It gives a big insight on that whole type of world.
But, isn't persuasion a manipulation of someones thought proccess? I mean I could "persuade" you with force or "persuade you with words", either way I've manipultated your thinking.

And to those who think manipulation is evil, who taught you that? Religious leaders and figures, teachers, parents, authority figures? They're all people in power who want to keep their power and keep you subservient, a form of manipulation in itself.

But as Luke!! and KX said, read 48 Laws of Power.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."

:whistle:​



None of us knows something because someone told us it is true.
None of us want to have a boat, a car, a house, just like Dave has it or better.
None of us want money, pvssy, fame, etc.



In fact, none of us has ever agreed with popular public opinion to keep our face.


None of us has ever been manipulated, lol. :crackup:




~beeaaa , beeeeaaaaah
 

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RazorAzoth said:
THE most recommended book on dealing with people. I agree.
get "How to Have Confidence and Power in Dealing with People" by Les Giblin instead. Same underlying principle (people are ego based), better clarification and details on how to apply this concept to your social life, and practically no filler. Meanwhile, almost half of Carnegie's book is drawn out stories from the 1930's
 

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ready123 said:
Meanwhile, almost half of Carnegie's book is drawn out stories from the 1930's
It does not matter.

People needs and wants haven't changed much in the past 70+ years and the rules can and still be applied today. It is a testament as to why the book is still around in circulation.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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that's why I think the other book is better. it focuses entirely on the rules, in greater detail and clarity, and doesn't use long anachronistic stories to try to hype up the reader

I own both books by the way. Carnegie's book is more popular, but conceptually, it's also a little more vague, more incomplete version of Giblin's book with a ton of fluff
 

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i'd love to read about manipulation. i read carnegie's book allready.
 
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