"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Manipulation books

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Can anyone recommend a good book on manipulation. I am not looking for this in terms of relationships. But more for business and getting people to do what you want.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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your boss probably manipulates you. they all do. reason for that is so that you do good work, and work it hard, and do things for him for free, for little compensation. Manipulation = commanding a slave. Though unlike beating a slave with a bat to make him do things, with manipulation the other dude thinks he's free.

Manipulation is going on all over this world. Every day, every hour, every minute.

I never done it, but I'm pretty sure it's not what God intended. I'm pretty sure it's what evil is.

do it to people that deserve it man. Hot gold digging turkeys, and bosses, and government officials. People that are too stuck up in reality.
 

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:) lol

people who do manipulate rely on ethics and other codes and BS to keep the impressionable from learning these powers of mass control.


manipulation is evil, don't do it. instead I'll tell you what you need to do. do this ................


I'm laughing my ass off as I type this. Because the idea that manipulation is evil IS an opinion people that do manipulate tell you, and all you doing is repeating it lol. That's funny to me. This whole world is full of sheep, that require manipulation to maintain the balance in the herd. The sheep are told manipulation is evil, by the shepherds.

That's all I'm gonna tell you lol. :whistle:
 

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Luke!! said:
Manipulation is quite unethical. Go with persuasion. Pick up the book 48 laws of power. It gives a big insight on that whole type of world.
But, isn't persuasion a manipulation of someones thought proccess? I mean I could "persuade" you with force or "persuade you with words", either way I've manipultated your thinking.

And to those who think manipulation is evil, who taught you that? Religious leaders and figures, teachers, parents, authority figures? They're all people in power who want to keep their power and keep you subservient, a form of manipulation in itself.

But as Luke!! and KX said, read 48 Laws of Power.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."

:whistle:​



None of us knows something because someone told us it is true.
None of us want to have a boat, a car, a house, just like Dave has it or better.
None of us want money, pvssy, fame, etc.



In fact, none of us has ever agreed with popular public opinion to keep our face.


None of us has ever been manipulated, lol. :crackup:




~beeaaa , beeeeaaaaah
 

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RazorAzoth said:
THE most recommended book on dealing with people. I agree.
get "How to Have Confidence and Power in Dealing with People" by Les Giblin instead. Same underlying principle (people are ego based), better clarification and details on how to apply this concept to your social life, and practically no filler. Meanwhile, almost half of Carnegie's book is drawn out stories from the 1930's
 

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ready123 said:
Meanwhile, almost half of Carnegie's book is drawn out stories from the 1930's
It does not matter.

People needs and wants haven't changed much in the past 70+ years and the rules can and still be applied today. It is a testament as to why the book is still around in circulation.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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that's why I think the other book is better. it focuses entirely on the rules, in greater detail and clarity, and doesn't use long anachronistic stories to try to hype up the reader

I own both books by the way. Carnegie's book is more popular, but conceptually, it's also a little more vague, more incomplete version of Giblin's book with a ton of fluff
 

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i'd love to read about manipulation. i read carnegie's book allready.
 
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