"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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warrior1

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Do most women who see a guy with a bunch of othe guys say 5 of them be viewed less attractive? I always heard if you are going out at night or going anywhere, you should not be with 5 buddies at the same time unless you are going to a bar or something.

I always was in a male pack about 3 years ago but i quickly left it because it was horrible. You guys get the image of 5-6 guys walking together. Most women say that is not appealing to them either which i also would agree. I am 21 now.

Do women rather see you walk by yourself rather than with 5 guys? Theres also the thing about social proof so how many people is it good to just walk with whether its going out at night or in the day. I heard 1 buddy is the best but is 2 pushing it?

I do see lot of guys together like 5-6 together and it just looks really gay. Like guys that play videos game and mama boys and cant get women.

Your thoughts on this would be great. I rarely am with more than 2 guy buddies usually at one time when going out.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I wouldn't advise it.

Women could be intimidated and if not that you could be c0ck blocked by a jealous friend.

One other guy is alright to go along with though, its good to have a wingman sometimes.
 

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yea i know what you mean. I usually like going out with 1 of my buddies. 2 is okay with me too. I just mean that if i was walking with 5 buddies of mine, it just makes me look like a loser. Would 2 guys be still okay? 1 seems like the best number.
 

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Well, the best option would be a mix of guys and girls.

Or maybe just you with a bunch of girls. But be careful you don't look like the gay friend.
 

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if you really care about what you look like, then yeah, 1 or 2 is probably ideal. As far as I'm concerned, though, I'll go have fun with as many friends as I feel like...Life isn't just about scoring babes when you're out.

5-6 is kind of a big group, anyway, tho. I usually prefer kinda small gatherings of friends.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well it depends on the way you frame it in your mind. Remember its your reality. Its always the case when i would go out with 4 or 5 of my other friends we would engage very large groups of women in a 5 or 6 set.

When i would go out with 1 or 2 other guys we would usually engage a 2 or 3 set. Its not about how many you go out with, its just that the people you go out with have to be cool IMO.
 

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The only bad thing is if the boys in the group look like geeks. If not your cool and good to go. Stop reading so much into this....

Remember, when your out with your friends, your there to have a laugh and f&ck around. DOnt go out looking for women, go out for the banter.

Women will pickup on you having fun, and when you open them up and get chatting to them its game on....

You WORRY too much about how you look - care less and play the field more my man :yes:

Oh and yea, if there's women already in your social group it will be an advantage..
 

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Unless you're gangbanging or cruising for c0ck there isn't any reason to be out with 4 plus guys.

Chicks find it intimidating when a group of guys roll up on her. Unless she happens to be Jenna Haze.

Take one wingman (two max) and hit the town up.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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WTF just because you're with a group of guys doesn't mean you have to stay with them or next to them all night. Cruise off and do your own thing and then come back to them and joke around and then do whatever you want. Of course you shouldn't all talk to 1 chick as a group just go off and do your own thing.
 

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I usually go out with a group of 5 or even 6 but at least 3 of these guys are gym rats , athletic or boxers so for sure we don't look like geeks and we have a lot of fun so why care about what some girl think.
 
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