nubian-knight
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yay or nay?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
making out: cheating?
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Yep.
Thats a guaranteed relationship killer to any man that is not a symp/AFC or a swinger.
Thats a guaranteed relationship killer to any man that is not a symp/AFC or a swinger.
ready123
Master Don Juan
I broke up with an ex because of a make out. the make out and the lay are not that far apart in my book. the gap is just logistics and how far she lets herself buy into the other guy's reality
I also think these boundaries are things you should establish at the beginning of the relationship
I also think these boundaries are things you should establish at the beginning of the relationship
this girl ive been seeing, but not officially going out with... made out with a guy last night, at the same club i was at!
this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.
i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.
she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.
this is messed up
this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.
i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.
she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.
this is messed up
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
nubian-knight
Don Juan
randalll said:
at the same club u wer at? she clearly doesnt respect, call her up wen u feel like it but dont make her a priority at all
yeah ok, well she's comin round inabit to talk, im just gonna tell her that if she doesnt change then its the last she'll see of me
worst thing is i lost my virginity to this chick one week ago. had sex 4 times altogether and shes said she likes me quite a bit, its gonna be hard to cut her out, gonna just tell her i dont wanna see her again
she's even admitted she's a c0ck, she's been thru something really traumatic recently though, and has been drunk pretty much every night since, thats the reason she fvcks up anyway. she's a good person really
worst thing is i lost my virginity to this chick one week ago. had sex 4 times altogether and shes said she likes me quite a bit, its gonna be hard to cut her out, gonna just tell her i dont wanna see her again
she's even admitted she's a c0ck, she's been thru something really traumatic recently though, and has been drunk pretty much every night since, thats the reason she fvcks up anyway. she's a good person really
Different people define cheating as different things.
To get your definition ask yourself this. What would you end a relationship for
would you break up with your gf if she
-flirted with other guys
-went out with a guy friend 1 on 1 for casual fun
- made out with another man/woman
- had sex with another man/woman
-talks to other men on the phone or online in a sexuall way
- grinding other men at a club dancing
notice I put kissing/sex with other women because some men consider it cheating even if its another womanl. I have also heard it sucks alot to have your gf leave you for a women
also think about which of those would you find acceptable to do in front of your gf. If you wouldn't do it in front of her or want her to know you're doing it then it most likely is a form of cheating.
To get your definition ask yourself this. What would you end a relationship for
would you break up with your gf if she
-flirted with other guys
-went out with a guy friend 1 on 1 for casual fun
- made out with another man/woman
- had sex with another man/woman
-talks to other men on the phone or online in a sexuall way
- grinding other men at a club dancing
notice I put kissing/sex with other women because some men consider it cheating even if its another womanl. I have also heard it sucks alot to have your gf leave you for a women
also think about which of those would you find acceptable to do in front of your gf. If you wouldn't do it in front of her or want her to know you're doing it then it most likely is a form of cheating.
nubian-knight
Don Juan
randalll said:
so use her for what she is, a ***** to fvck, dont dedicate any of ur luv to her, meet better girls while talking to her
Come on people, seriously? Drunken makeouts are pretty common and people are split 50/50 (girls and guys) on whether or not that is cheating... not like it shows in the results of this thread.
A drunken makeout is hard to stop, and seriously I don't see the big deal with it.
If there isn't contact with ****, tits, or pvssy it isn't cheating in my book.
And for the record, my girl can hook-up with another girl as much as she wants in any way she wants and I'd have no problem with it.
A drunken makeout is hard to stop, and seriously I don't see the big deal with it.
If there isn't contact with ****, tits, or pvssy it isn't cheating in my book.
And for the record, my girl can hook-up with another girl as much as she wants in any way she wants and I'd have no problem with it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Master Bates
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It's not sex, but it's still cheating. Any intimate or sexual physicality involving another girl (or guy if you're a girl) that you'd need to hide from your partner because they'd see it as an act of betrayal is obviously cheating. The fact that alcohol is involved is always a crappy excuse. You telling me that if you were in a relationship with a girl and found that she made out with some guy she knows from work or a guy she met at a bar that you wouldn't feel betrayed? It means she's not loyal to you.
My guess is that those who try to justify it as not cheating probably do so for their own benefit (they wanna go as far as they can with other girls when in a relationship).
My guess is that those who try to justify it as not cheating probably do so for their own benefit (they wanna go as far as they can with other girls when in a relationship).
3countriesPlan
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so you are cool with your girl having drunk make out sessions with guys?DoctorLW said:
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
Its an opinion opener about this 
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Yes definitely its cheating . Someone sticking his tongue in my girlfriends throat ?? naah :box:
. Yes definitely its cheating . Someone sticking his tongue in my girlfriends throat ?? naah :box:
It woudln't bother me at all. As long as she made out with him because she could, but not because she wanted to fvck him. If that makes sense.
We all have our definition of cheating. It's pretty clear that mine isn't shared by the populace of this board - not sure how much of the real life population it represents- but that I should probably be a bit more careful moving forward.
We all have our definition of cheating. It's pretty clear that mine isn't shared by the populace of this board - not sure how much of the real life population it represents- but that I should probably be a bit more careful moving forward.
Master Bates
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Yeah, well I'd say your attitude towards your girlfriend sticking her tongue down another guy's throat is awfully atypical and abnormal, and perhaps delusional. Who does that with people they don't have any thoughts of fvcking? "Hmm, I'm bored. Where's my PSP? Damn. Hey maybe I''ll just let that guy stick his tongue in my mouth to pass the time instead". Right...DoctorLW said:
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.