nubian-knight
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yay or nay?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
making out: cheating?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
KontrollerX
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Yep.
Thats a guaranteed relationship killer to any man that is not a symp/AFC or a swinger.
Thats a guaranteed relationship killer to any man that is not a symp/AFC or a swinger.
ready123
Master Don Juan
I broke up with an ex because of a make out. the make out and the lay are not that far apart in my book. the gap is just logistics and how far she lets herself buy into the other guy's reality
I also think these boundaries are things you should establish at the beginning of the relationship
I also think these boundaries are things you should establish at the beginning of the relationship
this girl ive been seeing, but not officially going out with... made out with a guy last night, at the same club i was at!
this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.
i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.
she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.
this is messed up
this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.
i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.
she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.
this is messed up
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
nubian-knight
Don Juan
randalll said:
at the same club u wer at? she clearly doesnt respect, call her up wen u feel like it but dont make her a priority at all
yeah ok, well she's comin round inabit to talk, im just gonna tell her that if she doesnt change then its the last she'll see of me
worst thing is i lost my virginity to this chick one week ago. had sex 4 times altogether and shes said she likes me quite a bit, its gonna be hard to cut her out, gonna just tell her i dont wanna see her again
she's even admitted she's a c0ck, she's been thru something really traumatic recently though, and has been drunk pretty much every night since, thats the reason she fvcks up anyway. she's a good person really
worst thing is i lost my virginity to this chick one week ago. had sex 4 times altogether and shes said she likes me quite a bit, its gonna be hard to cut her out, gonna just tell her i dont wanna see her again
she's even admitted she's a c0ck, she's been thru something really traumatic recently though, and has been drunk pretty much every night since, thats the reason she fvcks up anyway. she's a good person really
Different people define cheating as different things.
To get your definition ask yourself this. What would you end a relationship for
would you break up with your gf if she
-flirted with other guys
-went out with a guy friend 1 on 1 for casual fun
- made out with another man/woman
- had sex with another man/woman
-talks to other men on the phone or online in a sexuall way
- grinding other men at a club dancing
notice I put kissing/sex with other women because some men consider it cheating even if its another womanl. I have also heard it sucks alot to have your gf leave you for a women
also think about which of those would you find acceptable to do in front of your gf. If you wouldn't do it in front of her or want her to know you're doing it then it most likely is a form of cheating.
To get your definition ask yourself this. What would you end a relationship for
would you break up with your gf if she
-flirted with other guys
-went out with a guy friend 1 on 1 for casual fun
- made out with another man/woman
- had sex with another man/woman
-talks to other men on the phone or online in a sexuall way
- grinding other men at a club dancing
notice I put kissing/sex with other women because some men consider it cheating even if its another womanl. I have also heard it sucks alot to have your gf leave you for a women
also think about which of those would you find acceptable to do in front of your gf. If you wouldn't do it in front of her or want her to know you're doing it then it most likely is a form of cheating.
nubian-knight
Don Juan
randalll said:
so use her for what she is, a ***** to fvck, dont dedicate any of ur luv to her, meet better girls while talking to her
Come on people, seriously? Drunken makeouts are pretty common and people are split 50/50 (girls and guys) on whether or not that is cheating... not like it shows in the results of this thread.
A drunken makeout is hard to stop, and seriously I don't see the big deal with it.
If there isn't contact with ****, tits, or pvssy it isn't cheating in my book.
And for the record, my girl can hook-up with another girl as much as she wants in any way she wants and I'd have no problem with it.
A drunken makeout is hard to stop, and seriously I don't see the big deal with it.
If there isn't contact with ****, tits, or pvssy it isn't cheating in my book.
And for the record, my girl can hook-up with another girl as much as she wants in any way she wants and I'd have no problem with it.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Master Bates
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It's not sex, but it's still cheating. Any intimate or sexual physicality involving another girl (or guy if you're a girl) that you'd need to hide from your partner because they'd see it as an act of betrayal is obviously cheating. The fact that alcohol is involved is always a crappy excuse. You telling me that if you were in a relationship with a girl and found that she made out with some guy she knows from work or a guy she met at a bar that you wouldn't feel betrayed? It means she's not loyal to you.
My guess is that those who try to justify it as not cheating probably do so for their own benefit (they wanna go as far as they can with other girls when in a relationship).
My guess is that those who try to justify it as not cheating probably do so for their own benefit (they wanna go as far as they can with other girls when in a relationship).
3countriesPlan
Master Don Juan
so you are cool with your girl having drunk make out sessions with guys?DoctorLW said:
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
Its an opinion opener about this 
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Yes definitely its cheating . Someone sticking his tongue in my girlfriends throat ?? naah :box:
. Yes definitely its cheating . Someone sticking his tongue in my girlfriends throat ?? naah :box:
It woudln't bother me at all. As long as she made out with him because she could, but not because she wanted to fvck him. If that makes sense.
We all have our definition of cheating. It's pretty clear that mine isn't shared by the populace of this board - not sure how much of the real life population it represents- but that I should probably be a bit more careful moving forward.
We all have our definition of cheating. It's pretty clear that mine isn't shared by the populace of this board - not sure how much of the real life population it represents- but that I should probably be a bit more careful moving forward.
Master Bates
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Yeah, well I'd say your attitude towards your girlfriend sticking her tongue down another guy's throat is awfully atypical and abnormal, and perhaps delusional. Who does that with people they don't have any thoughts of fvcking? "Hmm, I'm bored. Where's my PSP? Damn. Hey maybe I''ll just let that guy stick his tongue in my mouth to pass the time instead". Right...DoctorLW said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.