"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Makeou Friend : Just Slightly Above the Friendzone?

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I decided to post a new thread about this even though it basically follows from a thread I started a few days ago : http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172126

In general, do you all think there are some women who just want a friend of the opposite sex they can hang out with and as far as phsyical contact goes, JUST make out with. After two months of the predicament mentioned in my original post, I'm starting to think this could be the case, given that, after two months :

- we only make out (no indication that she wants to have sex)
- she seems to put up an emotional wall to keep things from getting too serious

Any thoughts?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Some girls give no indication of sex.

Nothing will have happened for months unless i made a risky move into her pants with my hand with my current gf.

You have to make her say no, untill she says no keep charging.

Stop thinking about emotions, focus on getting sex. That is your role and purpose as a man. If you manage to get a **** buddy that wants sex but has no emotional weight or demand, then you are king of men and have achieved the ultimate goal. The rest will sort itself out when u bang her.

Either bang or get rejected.
 
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In this case, I'm not approaching things as the pursuit of a **** buddy.
 
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Ian19 said:
In this case, I'm not approaching things as the pursuit of a **** buddy.
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What he's saying is, if you have sex with her, she (like most girls) will find a reason to want to be more serious with you.

My pursuit of a f*** buddy and my pursuit of a girlfriend are the same thing. Take the girl out, show them a good time, and try to have sex with her. The "relationship" forms after that. And I mean relationship as in **** buddy relationship or girlfriend relationship...First comes the sex, then comes the classification of what you two are doing together.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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