"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I have posted before asking for similar advice, but to skip all the fluff and context of my own situation, I want to ask a more general question to all the married men, men who have been in the game for a long time, and or men who are currently in a LTR.

What do you think is the correct course of action while in an LTR?

- Cheating/spinning plates
- Spinning plates but not f*cking (keeping options)
- Soley focus on maintaining the LTR
- A combination of the above
- Or anything I missed

I have my own thoughts on the matter but I want to hear what other men on this forum have to say.

Thanks
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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- Cheating/spinning plates
- Spinning plates but not f*cking (keeping options)

- Soley focus on maintaining the LTR
- A combination of the above
- Or anything I missed
If you feel like you have to do anything else, you probably shouldn't be in a relationship.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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BeExcellent

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Advice from the old lady:

Have character, integrity and ethics. Period. If you choose to decieve your LTR, you have zero character, integrity or ethics.

Ergo, you are not trustworthy, not respecting her (assuming she thinks the LTR is exclusive), and when she discovers you are a liar she will dump you or at the very least resent you, and that is the beginning of the end if not the end right then.

Be honest. If you refuse to be exclusive, tell the truth and do not lie. If she stays she accepts those terms, if she leaves she doesn't.

But don't cage another person in a fantasy interaction where things are not as they seem. That's selfish, dishonest & hurtful, especially if she gave up her options under the auspices of exclusivity and you cheat on her. Not cool.

There needs to be more discussions about how to do a LTR or marriage well. Very different skillset than approaching women, getting dates, getting laid. VERY different skillset.

You gotta be a solid man but you cannot just be a jerk all the time & expect a great relationship. You actually need to give a crap & act like you give a crap. That is a subject of merit, because there is an art to it.
 

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Cheating is absolutely out of the question if you want any hope of keeping it going for life. Just dishonesty in general is poison to a relationship.

I see ethical non-monogamy mentioned here, but that's not really cheating as it's a mutually agreed upon arrangement. Requires a truckload of trust for that to have a chance of working out though.

Spinning plates without fvcking isn't the best idea depending on how you imagine going about it. Personally I don't actively entertain other women beyond what's acceptable as platonic, doing so would definitely send the wrong message if my wife finds out. However, I am still improving myself, never stopped doing that even though I'm happily married. This makes me attractive and other women show interest in me, so I do have other options if I wanted to, although that's passively rather than actively doing something specifically to gain the interest of other women.

I don't solely focus on maintaining my marriage, I focus on living my life and shaping our lives together. The relationship doesn't require that much maintenance (in the sense of focused effort) because we're very compatible, most things just works out in a way we're both pleased with. I do give extra attention to anything that potentially could become a problem down the line when it pops up, but honestly there's very little of that in our marriage.

My stance is that any other woman is at most in my friend zone. If there ever comes a time I'd seriously consider another woman then I'd go for divorce before cheating.
 
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