“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Nothing too crazy, but it looks like it's been about 2 months since I've been with somebody new, so I think this is still a quick story worth telling, while it's still fresh.

Thursday night, I head to the usual college bar with my buddy. Since I was out in Miami last weekend, I thought it might be refreshing to see some cute girls who were NOT working or sitting up in VIP. Unfortunately, it's getting to the point where I'm already seeing the same people each time I go there; the same girls, the same guys, the same friend groups. My buddy broke his dry spell a few weeks ago with this heavier girl, and I'm pretty sure she's been there with the same friends every night since.

Anyway, I'm having a good time, but it's pretty uneventful. Apparently, the upcoming weekend is Parents Weekend, so it's a bit quieter, with a few moms and dads sprinkled in the mix. But then I see this girl I had talked to before I left for Miami...

Context: The weekend before I left for Miami, I met a couple of girls, one of them being the girl in this story. It was near closing time, but we hit it off, I got her number, and we made tentative plans for that Saturday night. I texted her that day to confirm, but she didn't respond - she has read receipts on, so I know she never even read it. No big deal, I deleted the number and moved on.

So tonight I see her, she sees me, and more so, she looks happy to see me. She hugs me, and I give her some sh**, telling her that I'm surprised she's happy to see me, on account of her ghosting me. She apologizes and tells me that she likes playing hard to get, and admits to having a tendency to be "a little bit of a bit*h". I ask if she wants me to have her number, and that she can say no if she's just going to ghost me again. She laughs, puts her number into my phone, calls it, then sends me 2 texts right then and there.

I ask if she's free this weekend, and she informs me that it's Parents Weekend, and that she'll be with them the entire time. So I ask what her plans are later tonight. She tells me that she's probably just going home with her friend and going to sleep. I ask if she'd like company with that. She smiles and says, "Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't".

We sit down at one of the tables and make small talk for a bit. I don't really remember the content of that conversation. At this point, I still wasn't sure how the night was going to go - I figured she was interested, but that "I'm not saying no" comment had me feeling like it could go either way. She tells me that she thinks I'm very attractive, but isn't a big fan of PDA, so I offer the idea that we should leave for somewhere more private. Again, "I'm not saying no". My friends are sitting at a few tables away, trying to get a feel for whether they should stick around or not. She came with a friend, and that friend's boyfriend, and soon after, they made the collective decision to leave.

I still haven't been formally invited, so I don't follow - that is, until my girl walks out the door, notices I'm not there, comes back, and puts on this playful shrug as if to say "are you coming?" I tell my friends I'll figure it out if things don't go my way, and leave with her.

On the way back, we do get sidetracked, because the friend's drunken boyfriend punches a random guy in the face because that guy happened to be walking too close to his girlfriend (yeah, that's actually why he did it). So I have to intervene and de-escalate the situation. The random guy has every reason to get his lick back, but I'm just trying to prevent a fight so I can go home with this girl - and obviously, both girls are hysterical about the situation, so I have to calm everyone down. I think the only reason this worked is that I'm considerably bigger than both these guys, so I don't think they wanted to risk escalating it with me either. He was actually a really nice guy.

The drunken boyfriend storms off, his girlfriend goes after him, and I resume walking with my girl. The girlfriend and my girl get stopped AGAIN by some random friends of theirs walking the opposite way, and they briefly explain what just went down. That conversation goes on for some time, so my girl excuses us both to leave without the girlfriend.

We walked back to her place, headed upstairs, and it was pretty much on from there once I went for the kiss. We ended up having sex once, almost twice, but the condom got "gripped" off, so I just let that be the end of it. And then we just both passed out naked.

In the morning, I didn't get the greatest sleep...see, she has those little string lights all over her room, and we didn't turn them off before we passed out. Additionally, I was a little hungover, had to get up early for an appointment, and she kept pulling the blanket off me while we slept. As I'm getting dressed, we're making some small talk; she asked if I had classes today, to which I responded that I'm older, revealing that I'm 31 years old. She was surprised, but not at all disappointed, remarking that I'm "not the oldest she's been with". She gets up to kiss me goodbye, I tell her I'll text her, and she jokingly says she'll text back this time.

Since then, I've texted her that I would love to see her some more after Parents Weekend ends. She hadn't responded, but "liked" that message. We also both follow each other on Instagram now, and she watches the stuff I post.

Had a pretty fun time. She's a tall, slim, Italian-looking girl with a very small chest but a FANTASTIC a*s. We'll see what happens in the future.

I don't know if there's much to take away from this story, but I'm sure there are plenty of guys who wouldn't have even bothered talking to her again after being ghosted. I think the reason this worked was because I wasn't emotional or upset about it; rather, I made light of the situation. I also wasn't outcome dependent, because I didn't expect much of anything to happen by talking to her again, but also didn't really see any real downside.

This reminds me of some of the stuff I said in this thread: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/perception-isnt-always-reality.284801/

Not everybody agreed with my approach, but I stand behind the suggestion to "Play it out. You have nothing to lose." And that instead of having an ego about the situation, I chose to get laid.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Italian and playing hard to get. Go figure :rofl:

Congrats OP

Man, ever consider you attract these hard-to-get chicks?

Eventually they're going to burn you out imo.
 

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This reminds me of some of the stuff I said in this thread: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/perception-isnt-always-reality.284801/

Not everybody agreed with my approach, but I stand behind the suggestion to "Play it out. You have nothing to lose." And that instead of having an ego about the situation, I chose to get laid.
@BPH I think in this situation you played it just right...

The difference being in this situation, imo girl was employing a bit of "girl game" and as such her 'snarky' responses were not her being bytchy or hard to get (a girl who is hard to get and a bytch for real is NOT gonna announce to the guy she's hard to get or a bytch), but rather it was her teasing you and being playful!

She was shyt testing you (in a fun way), teasing and playing with you and obviously you passed! :D

In Nick's situation in the thread you linked, girl was just flat out not interested. And a bytch. And nothing happened.

From the thread you linked:

@BPH examples show how to avoid false negatives and how to not misread neutral or situational signals as rejection.

@nicksaiz65 example shows how to recognize a true negative since she’s giving unambiguous “no’s” and leaving him nothing to work with to connect.

The takeaway is to give ambiguous signals a chance while recognizing true negatives to avoid chasing dead ends.
^^Spot on @Clockwerk50.

In this situation BPH, I wouldn't even say her signals were ambiguous, to me it was obvious she was teasing and being playful, shyt testing!

You read that right and got the girl!

I think the takeaway is a guy needs to be able to utilize his social intelligence and know (or learn) the difference between a true bytch who's not interested and a girl who's exercising a little girl game and being playful (like this girl was).

Same as what @Clockwerk50 just said above (different words).

Anyhoo good fun story!
 
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Italian and playing hard to get. Go figure :rofl:

Congrats OP

Man, ever consider you attract these hard-to-get chicks?

Eventually they're going to burn you out imo.
I just go after the girls I'm interested in and let things play out from there.

I don't think I'll get burnt out. I've been doing it this way for more than 13 years now. I like the chase. I like variety. Right now, I don't have a very consistent FWB in any of the girls I've been seeing, and I expect things to get quieter as it gets colder, so I'm not too upset about what's currently required of me.

In Nick's situation in the thread you linked, girl was just flat out not interested. And a bytch. And nothing happened.
Agreed, and over text, pre-meetup, there's only so much you can control. It was more to illustrate the concept, which unfortunately didn't pan out in his case. But he saw it through.

I think the takeaway is a guy needs to be able to utilize his social intelligence and know (or learn) the difference between a true bytch who's not interested and a girl who's exercising a little girl game and being playful (like this girl was).
Also agreed, and another case for judging a woman's actions over her words. @nicksaiz65 actually has another example where I'm working with him (he can share if he'd like) on this girl who told him off, but KEEPS telling him despite him not responding to her. In which case, I'd say she's not REALLY done with him.
 

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Also agreed, and another case for judging a woman's actions over her words. @nicksaiz65 actually has another example where I'm working with him (he can share if he'd like) on this girl who told him off, but KEEPS telling him despite him not responding to her. In which case, I'd say she's not REALLY done with him.
Oh man @nicksaiz65 you gotta chime in and tell us this story!

What does she keep telling you, what happened?

I'd say that any girl who reacts that emotionally must still have some feels for you...

Perhaps she's experiencing a bit of cognitive dissonance (see @tksniper post in a different thread)

I actually have no idea but it's possible.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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the friend's drunken boyfriend punches a random guy in the face because that guy happened to be walking too close to his girlfriend (yeah, that's actually why he did it). So I have to intervene and de-escalate the situation. The random guy has every reason to get his lick back, but I'm just trying to prevent a fight so I can go home with this girl - and obviously, both girls are hysterical about the situation, so I have to calm everyone down. I think the only reason this worked is that I'm considerably bigger than both these guys, so I don't think they wanted to risk escalating it with me either.
I'm happy for you that your evening worked out well.

Having said that, what you did was stupid and dangerous. Being big is a good bluff, but you will eventually run into someone who actually knows how to fight. And you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be inserting yourself between two people like that, because that is not a defensible position. As soon as either of them whips out a gun or knife, that's the end of you.
 

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I'm happy for you that your evening worked out well.

Having said that, what you did was stupid and dangerous. Being big is a good bluff, but you will eventually run into someone who actually knows how to fight. And you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be inserting yourself between two people like that, because that is not a defensible position. As soon as either of them whips out a gun or knife, that's the end of you.
For clarification, I wasn't literally between two guys chomping at the bit...one was basically walking away like he didn't do anything, and the other was a guy kinda wanting to get in his face about it.

That said, I do know how to fight. I've got a black belt in Kenpo karate and won several sparring tournaments. I also wrestled, played football, and learned to box just so I knew I wouldn't bit*c out the moment I got hit in the face (my parents actually hated that because my instructor was a friend and amateur boxer, one time we sparred with pads on and I still had a busted lip and some bruising under my eye afterwards).

I agree with and understand your concern about a gun or knife, but I can't remember the last time there was a fatality on this campus. The school is located in suburbia, and white students make up 63% of enrollment - these kids yell in lowercase.
 

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I'm happy for you that your evening worked out well.

Having said that, what you did was stupid and dangerous. Being big is a good bluff, but you will eventually run into someone who actually knows how to fight. And you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be inserting yourself between two people like that, because that is not a defensible position. As soon as either of them whips out a gun or knife, that's the end of you.
There's a good song about this, and it's Miami-themed:

 

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Oh man @nicksaiz65 you gotta chime in and tell us this story!

What does she keep telling you, what happened?

I'd say that any girl who reacts that emotionally must still have some feels for you...

Perhaps she's experiencing a bit of cognitive dissonance (see @tksniper post in a different thread)

I actually have no idea but it's possible.
I don’t know about nicks situation but cognitive dissonance usually stems from a woman’s attraction for you vs her social conditioning.

In the 2000’s women’s social conditioning was mostly based on screening for players. Nowadays with social media and radical feminism, it’s a lot more complicated. Some women walk around acting like chickens with their heads cut off whenever they feel attraction for a guy because of all the TikTok advice they be getting from so called expert female dating coaches.
 

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@tksniper it's not just Tik Tok, there are female websites teaching women this stuff too.

One such extremely toxic site is "Female Dating Strategy" lord have mercy that site is the absolute worst!

I was never a member but used to read it sometimes. These days I cannot even stomach that!

But yeah I agree and as I said in previous I'm a fairly rational girl, but I struggle with this sometimes too.
 

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Oh man @nicksaiz65 you gotta chime in and tell us this story!

What does she keep telling you, what happened?

I'd say that any girl who reacts that emotionally must still have some feels for you...

Perhaps she's experiencing a bit of cognitive dissonance (see @tksniper post in a different thread)

I actually have no idea but it's possible.
Yeah, I can share what happened here. I ended up banging a girl that I was working with at my side hustle. After banging her a few times, I ended up inviting out another girl from the same job (stupid I know :rofl:.) She found out and ended up blowing up my phone over and over.. yet she keeps sending me texts even though I eventually stopped responding to her. Yet, at the job she's like "hii Nick.."

She'll be back haha, I'm going to wait for her to cool down and then get her back on the team.
 
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