You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
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These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
So to @nicksaiz65 what was the outcome of @BPH advice?
I don't recall the exact wording, @nicksaiz65 can provide that if he feels like it.
My point exactly, and why I didn't think this was unreasonable. One could argue that if she were interested enough, it wouldn't be an issue, but you can't expect that via online dating when she likely has dozens of matches in her queue.
This is a high interest woman who is highly interested in a fairy tale.
The point of this thread is that you lose nothing by engaging in it and seeing it through. So long as you're not invested in the outcome, and are talking to other women.
Did you miss this?
Messaging and voice apps; burner phones.
Agreed, just wanted to share what I've observed with this type of woman. They will try to get you invested and then play hard to get. So to your point, don't invest.
That's become far less common over time. Voice conversations before meeting were more common in the era of dating websites than dating apps. Fewer people are willing to talk on the telephone anymore so it hasn't been as common since the early to mid 2010s.
That's a terrible experience. I think it would be quite difficult to do online dating without a phone number exchange. If she's that concerned about safety reasons, she should be dating solely from in-person methods and only meeting men through her social circle.
@nicksaiz65 is an early Generation Z'er and the women he deals with tend to be in Generation Z. Generation Z individuals are drinking less than Generation X and Generation Y/Millennials did from the 1980s-2010s.
This is an example with 2 posters with very different outlooks saying the same thing.
I understand the not drinking SW... the reason why I thought it was a lame excuse was because she could order a sparkling water with lime or something. I mentioned that in my post.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I see a difference between the OP’s examples and the situation in the text exchange.
The biggest issue here is the format. It's very difficult to assess interest levels from words on an electronic screen. Assessing interest levels with an in-person scenario is difficult enough, but the degree of difficulty increases when just judging off of words on an electronic screen.
If the exchange between @nicksaiz65 and the woman was exactly how you put it together there, then it sounds biatchy and snarky. I am able to recognize that. As a result of living in a big city with many biatchy women, it is possible to get accustomed to difficult snotty women. They are common in my city.
Most women are not hermits who avoid socialization. That's true even for Generation Z, a group less accustomed to in-person socialization.
Many men are having difficulty finding 'better women'. There are many low quality women out there.
^^I don't know if it was exactly that, I was reiterating what @BPH posted but in a text exchange format.
I understand he may have been paraphrasing but nonetheless, she declined because she doesn't drink so my opinion still stands - if she were interesed, she would have accepted and ordered a non-alcoholic beverage.
And the ones that are on the apps regularly, you probably don’t want.
It is well known that ratios are bad on the Big 3 swipe apps (Tinder, Bumble, Hinge). Tinder is 76% male and Bumble and Hinge are about 65% male from statistics I've seen in the past.
Most women are going to turn to swipe apps at some point as a single woman if they are single long enough. Women on apps regularly are often damaged goods.
True. That's why it is best to approach them through some real life method.
True. Fewer men have been cold approaching since dating websites got de-stigmatized in the mid-2000s and then apps took over with the launch of Tinder in 2012.
That's not real abundance. True abundance comes from within. Self-respect, knowing your value as a man, the confidence that you can find another woman without issue. It comes from a strong frame.
It seems my advice is becoming misconstrued here...
This is an excellent summary of what I'm advocating for.
Voice chat prior to meeting has gone the way of making it through K-12, WITHOUT ending up with more holes in you than the ones you came into the world outfitted with.... More rare than a presidential election who's results actually matter in some significant way
You bring up a very good point!
