LR - 101

[BPH]

I didn't think this was exciting enough to post, but @BadBoy89 was complaining about how every theorycrafter on this forum sucks because they don't post evidence of anything they preach actually working, so here we are. I have some time before bed, and nothing else going on, so I might as well...

Unlike the girl I described last week, and a majority of the reason I didn't bother posting this earlier, this girl was not one I met out in the wild via cold approaching. No, I met this one through matching with her on Hinge. My pictures and profile did a lot of the heavy lifting when it came to establishing initial attraction, but I did still have things I needed to do right, so I think there may be a couple of teachable moments here.

Pulling up my chat logs, it looks like we matched a little more than 2 weeks ago when she liked a video of me riding a mechanical bull. Truthfully, this probably worked out as well as it did because I wasn't really sure if I was attracted to her, as her pictures made it hard to tell how she looked. She dresses quite conservatively in both her Hinge pictures and her uploads to Instagram; not a single picture of her in a bikini, lingerie, or any tight little outfits to give me an idea of her figure. This led to me having a very "take it or leave it" vibe when it came to our conversations.

For context, at 38, she's a little older than me, lives about 30 minutes away, works as a medical provider for the Air Force, and is a tiny 5'3" blonde Latina.

She came across as equally conservative in her conversation, describing how she doesn't post provocative pictures because she's constantly being harassed by men in her life. Whether through Hinge, her workplace, Instagram, or otherwise. I learned that she moved to Delaware only a few months ago, having lived in Oklahoma and California before that. She rarely drinks, has yet to go out anywhere since moving here, and disclosed that it had been almost a year since she last had sex.

My investment was minimal; I wasn't sure if she was that attractive due to the type of pictures she posts, she rarely drinks, hasn't had sex in a long time, and seems very wary of men. I ended up getting her number to move the conversation off the app, along with following each other on Instagram. My birthday was coming up, and I had recently met the girl from my 100th LR, so my focus was elsewhere - yet I kept conversation going with this girl and matched her interest over text.

What swayed me to put in actual effort was on my birthday when she was nearby in Philadelphia, but couldn't make it to the bar I was at. As an "apology" and "birthday gift" she sent me a couple of pictures of her legs in a black-slit dress with heels, her wet legs in the shower, and a short video of her with her cat laying on her boobs. This painted a better picture for me of what she actually looked like and showed me that despite her abstinence, there was definitely sexual interest.

After that night, we pretty much continued the vibe of the conversation we had before, but this time I added in how I wish she'd been at the bar that night, and encouraged further behavior like the night before when she was sending me pictures to tease me.

Sunday and Monday night were spent with the LR 100 girl, so my focus was there, but I still maintained conversation with this girl over text. Tuesday and Wednesday, she continued the trend of teasing me with pictures, describing her day while asking about mine, and typically maintained this pace from morning till night.

Thursday rolls around, and she asks me my plans for the night. I reply that I only have work and the gym, then I'm free. She asks if I'd like to come over and watch some movies with her if I get done early enough.

Most guys will be able to read between the lines on this, but some younger guys may not understand the context of this invite if they lack experience. An invite to see a girl who has expressed sexual interest in you, later at night, by herself, at her place, is 9 times out of a 10 an invite for sex - so long as you don't act like a complete moron.

I take the hint.

I accept, and as soon as I finish at the gym, I quickly have a small meal, shower, clean up, and then drive over.

She lives in a very nice development in a bit of a rural part of the state. She greets me in an oversized t-shirt and shorts and comments on how I'm bigger than she thought I'd be. She leads me through her home (which is very nice) up to her bedroom, where she's watching movies on a projector pointed at her bedroom wall. It's at this time that I learn she has a male roommate whom she cares for, who was looking forward to meeting me. Apparently, he's on the spectrum and is only living there temporarily - otherwise, it's just her and her cat in this very large and nice townhome for one.

She makes some small talk, asking how the drive over was, how my day had been, and saying that it's nice to finally meet me before getting into her bed to watch a movie.

Now...I knew what this invite COULD mean, but I also wasn't sure how far it would go, given the fact that she hadn't had sex in almost a year and had earlier been complaining about all the STD cases she has to treat at work and how irresponsible young adults are in Delaware. I figured sex was on the table, but I was not confident this visit would go all the way.

 

[BPH]

I was wrong.

A few short minutes into the movie, I go for the kiss. She's receptive. So we start making out. She's receptive to that, too. So I start going up her shirt and rubbing her pu**y through her shorts. She's a little nervous about that, so I have to take it slowly and ease her into being comfortable with that - I have to take her hands and put them on me for her to be comfortable with touching me.

Once again, what I believe was the deciding factor here was fingering. Learn this f***ing skill...

The first time I made her c*m, I didn't even need to be under her pants - I was just rubbing her lips through her shorts. After that, I think she was much more comfortable letting my hands under her shorts. She was INCREDIBLY tight...I couldn't remember the last time I couldn't stick more than 1 finger inside, but that was the case here. She was VERY receptive to that...yet I still wasn't sure if she was going to be comfortable going all the way. That was until she, mid-fingering, said "just f*** me, please f*** me". So I pulled out 1 of the 2 condoms I had in my wallet, and that was that. She was super tight, which felt amazing, but combined with the fact that I was sober, it meant I really had to pace myself to last long. It didn't seem to matter, though, because she's been texting me, ranting and raving about it, wanting to see me again ever since.

The funny part about this is that the entire time I'm here, I'm juggling LR 100 girl because apparently she went out, got a little tipsy, and wanted to see me. Because after I finished the first round with this girl, I thought I would have to leave and rush over to see LR 100. I didn't think we would end up having sex tonight, and I knew she goes to bed early, so I hadn't initially planned to spend as much time with this girl as I did. Thankfully, that problem solved itself when LR 100 girl realized she was probably too drunk and that it might not be ideal for me to come over while she's like this, instead opting to get Papa John's and call it a night.

Now that I no longer felt I'd have to rush to leave, I relaxed with this girl for a bit. We ended up taking a shower together to clean off. I learned a bit about her family history and some of her negative experiences with her ex. She strikes me as somebody very similar to my BPD ex in a lot of ways; she had to take on a masculine role in a dysfunctional family, is the primary breadwinner for the people in her life, works in a male-dominated environment, etc. She was constantly referring to me as "baby", "papi", and "daddy". Judging from some of those observations, along with her texting style, and blaming her passionate personality on her being Latina, I do get the vibe that this girl might be a little crazy.

After the shower, we relax a little more and end up having sex again. Physically, she's in great shape for 38. She's small, has a great figure, and is very pretty. She has a couple of tattoos and is the first woman I'd been with (to my knowledge) who has gotten a breast REDUCTION. I noticed the scars and asked, assuming she had her boobs done before finding this out. She showed me pictures of them before, and while she is certainly attractive now, I definitely missed out a bit...

Not long afterwards, I decided it was best for me to head home. I hadn't expected to stay as late as I did, and I had work in the morning. She walks me down, kisses me goodbye, and makes sure I'm home safe before going to bed.

Since that night she has been texting me quite regularly (and lengthily) every day, often about how bad she wants to see me again and making remarks about how horny she is. She seems to have been extremely repressed after that long period of abstinence. So far, I have not made concrete plans to visit her again, though I'm certainly not opposed. I'm mostly concerned about her level of crazy. My brother recently visited and I showed him pictures of her and he made similar remarks - that she's very attractive but has "crazy eyes". So we'll see...

Like I said, this LR is less exciting (in my opinion) than my 100th, but here are what I would consider the key takeaways:

• Don't be weird. My investment level was rock bottom, and one of the things she appreciated about me was that I wasn't telling her everything she wanted to hear to get into her pants - over text, I was occasionally blunt and disagreeable. She found that refreshing.
• If you're going to use OLD, put some effort into your profile. I have the advantage of a modeling background. Although it didn't get me any work, I have pictures from my portfolio that are pretty representative of how I look now, so I just copied and pasted them. Use good pictures of yourself and don't overcommit or overshare in your bio. I still don't have my religion, politics, or birthsign listed on any of my dating app accounts - but I ALWAYS have height listed.
• Learn to finger. I don't know how many more examples I have to provide as to why this is a valuable skill...
• Have options. A major contributing factor to why this interaction went so well was that I didn't really care whether I met up with her or not. At the time, I was making out with a girl I met at Barstool for my birthday, and then later courting LR 100 girl by planning out dates. Always be meeting more women - probably 90% of the problems guys come here with are a result of fixating on 1 or 2 women they really want when they could be putting that time into meeting more women who want them.

I don't know how much value you guys get from reading these. I could post these more often when I sleep with someone new, if it acts as "inspiration" or a good guideline for how to behave around women for some less experienced guys. Let me know if you guys like reading these, want to read them more often, or don't really care.

Personally, I get tired of reading all the negative theorycrafting, "it's over", or "X reasons why Y sucks" posts, and figure some positive stories could help with morale. But what do I know?

Have a good night. I hope I don't reread this later on and get annoyed by typos I missed...

 

[SW15]

Good post overall...

at 38, she's a little older than me, lives about 30 minutes away, works as a medical provider for the Air Force, and is a tiny 5'3" blonde Latina.

There are not a lot of blonde haired Latinas. Some Latinas might dye their hair blonde.

Plenty of Latinas are short, so 5'3" is typical for a Latina.

Thursday rolls around, and she asks me my plans for the night. I reply that I only have work and the gym, then I'm free. She asks if I'd like to come over and watch some movies with her if I get done early enough.

Most guys will be able to read between the lines on this, but some younger guys may not understand the context of this invite if they lack experience. An invite to see a girl who has expressed sexual interest in you, later at night, by herself, at her place, is 9 times out of a 10 an invite for sex - so long as you don't act like a complete moron.

It's awesome that she wanted you to go over to her place right away. I think a lot of men who use swipe apps or social media DMs would prefer to go straight to a woman's home or have them come over to theirs.

Meeting in a public place adds a layer of complexity to using the tech methods.

How would you recommend that more men get the immediate home invite? During the pandemic, there was a little bit of an emphasis on the swipe apps to immediate home invitation. "Don't be weird" (see next quote) is a part of this, but looks matter more than "Don't be weird".

Don't be weird. My investment level was rock bottom, and one of the things she appreciated about me was that I wasn't telling her everything she wanted to hear to get into her pants - over text, I was occasionally blunt and disagreeable. She found that refreshing

Don't be weird is always good advice. It's from the personality side of seduction. I've always perceived that looks and money matter more than personality but have always recognized that personality is something that can serve as a dealbreaker. In past lay reports from you, I have credited your personality in helping you get laid with new women.

If you're going to use OLD, put some effort into your profile. I have the advantage of a modeling background. Although it didn't get me any work, I have pictures from my portfolio that are pretty representative of how I look now, so I just copied and pasted them. Use good pictures of yourself and don't overcommit or overshare in your bio. I still don't have my religion, politics, or birthsign listed on any of my dating app accounts - but I ALWAYS have height listed

Listing height is useful for you at 6'0", the minimum height that women find most appealing. For me at 5'10", listing height would only serve as an asset to prove I'm not short. It's perceived as neutral at best. Nevertheless, I have listed height on profiles when I have used them.

I have never done religion, politics, or birthsign either. I have selected the "Don't Have Kids" button before but never mention in my profile any thoughts on future plans for kids.

If I were to return to OLD now, I would likely need an updated photo session. That's a bit of a disincentive to do that. I can go out right now and meet people in person.

Have options. A major contributing factor to why this interaction went so well was that I didn't really care whether I met up with her or not. At the time, I was making out with a girl I met at Barstool for my birthday, and then later courting LR 100 girl by planning out dates. Always be meeting more women - probably 90% of the problems guys come here with are a result of fixating on 1 or 2 women they really want when they could be putting that time into meeting more women who want them.

Scarcity is an issue for most men. Most men don't have 1-2 women they really want. Most men have 1-2 women total as options.

Plenty of men in big cities swipe on thousands of women. One example is below. This guy swiped on 16,000 women in his area to get 3 "one date, no sex, no second date" interactions.

Be meeting more women is good advice when the rest of game is on point. Without being a desirable product, meeting more women doesn't accomplish that much.

Looks need to be near superior range for meeting more women to work. I recommend regular exercise and an average range BMI. Good facial aesthetics and a lack of balding help a lot. My hairline recission is minimal in my early 40s. I also do not have any gray hair either.

My physique could be better. I'm also not that strong on money. My money situation isn't terrible. Money matters more for mid-30s guys +. You have done well without money while having looks, which is possible for younger men. At 31, you are nearing the end of the line for that.

I don't know how much value you guys get from reading these. I could post these more often when I sleep with someone new, if it acts as "inspiration" or a good guideline for how to behave around women for some less experienced guys. Let me know if you guys like reading these, want to read them more often, or don't really care.

These are good. Keep doing them if you have time to do it. I don't think you need to do them for every new lay.

This is likely to be a short term lay too. Perhaps an even one time lay based on the fact of the "crazy eyes" and no future plans made.

I learned that she moved to Delaware only a few months ago, having lived in Oklahoma and California before that. She rarely drinks, has yet to go out anywhere since moving here, and disclosed that it had been almost a year since she last had sex.

Delaware as a whole is a bedroom community.

This woman also doesn't seem to live near the most exciting parts of Delaware either.

She fits the profile of a lot of single moms despite not being a single mom. In the Dallas area, I can think of women who live in Collin County suburbs who fit her profile and are single moms. They rarely go out like she does.

She's also a random transplant to Delaware. Some woman in Delaware who had mainly lived in Oklahoma and California previously has no social circle in Delaware. She is using apps because she has no other options. I recognize transplant behavior when I see it or hear about it because the Dallas area has so many transplants both in Dallas and the northern Collin County suburbs.

She fits the "cat lady" stereotype too with owning a cat.

 

[Clockwerk50]

There are a few things that give me pause about this girl, the tattoos, the breast reduction, but mainly her thirstiness. I get the impression that the less consistent or invested you are, the more she will cling to you.

Otherwise, things seem pretty solid.

 

[BPH]

How would you recommend that more men get the immediate home invite? During the pandemic, there was a little bit of an emphasis on the swipe apps to immediate home invitation. "Don't be weird" (see next quote) is a part of this, but looks matter more than "Don't be weird".

I generally wouldn't recommend going for the immediate home invite. It is extremely rare.

Most women will want to meet somewhere semi-public or go on a little date first, to make sure you're not weird in-person. I would never suggest being pushy to the point where you're inviting yourself over for an initial meet, the only reason this happened the way it did was because SHE extended the invite and had her own place.

"Don't be weird" is something of a catch-all. Don't be double-texting unless you're mirroring her energy. Don't be clingy. Don't be sitting there all day instantly responding to everything and having nothing better to do than text her. Don't be blowing up her phone if she doesn't respond in a timely manner. Don't make every conversation sexual to try and drop the hint that it's what you want. Don't next a woman if she isn't explicitly agreeing to sex, a la Mode One.

Be normal. Be charming. Be funny. Be decisive. Be firm. Try to enjoy the interaction rather than force an outcome. It's like fishing; you're not going to catch anything by yelling at the fish and telling them to bite the line. You're going to catch them by giving them a reason to bite.

 

[SW15]

I generally wouldn't recommend going for the immediate home invite. It is extremely rare.

Most women will want to meet somewhere semi-public or go on a little date first, to make sure you're not weird in-person. I would never suggest being pushy to the point where you're inviting yourself over for an initial meet, the only reason this happened the way it did was because SHE extended the invite and had her own place.

It doesn't seem like there's a good combination of strategy and tactics to get the immediate home invite from a tech method (swipe apps or social media DMs).

I've been off of swipe apps for years and seldom ever used DMs so it's fascinating for me to try to understand those channels more than I do. I do have enough experience overall with both dating websites (long time ago) and dating apps that I wouldn't be considered a luddite.

The general course of action is still the public place meeting.

"Don't be weird" is something of a catch-all. Don't be double-texting unless you're mirroring her energy. Don't be clingy. Don't be sitting there all day instantly responding to everything and having nothing better to do than text her. Don't be blowing up her phone if she doesn't respond in a timely manner. Don't make every conversation sexual to try and drop the hint that it's what you want. Don't next a woman if she isn't explicitly agreeing to sex, a la Mode One.

There are good points in here. Never double text, it's so bad. Don't respond too quickly either. Going too sexual too fast is also not ideal.

Be normal. Be charming. Be funny. Be decisive. Be firm. Try to enjoy the interaction rather than force an outcome.

It's good overarching strategy.

It's like fishing; you're not going to catch anything by yelling at the fish and telling them to bite the line. You're going to catch them by giving them a reason to bite.

As someone who has fished a few times, I enjoy that analogy.

 

[The Duke]

Great stuff, took me back several years when I used to do this kind of stuff. The hardest part for me was containing the grin on my face when I realized I was hired for my dihk. ;-)

This is a good example of how easy women make it when they are into you.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I was wrong.

A few short minutes into the movie, I go for the kiss. She's receptive. So we start making out. She's receptive to that, too. So I start going up her shirt and rubbing her pu**y through her shorts. She's a little nervous about that, so I have to take it slowly and ease her into being comfortable with that - I have to take her hands and put them on me for her to be comfortable with touching me.

Once again, what I believe was the deciding factor here was fingering. Learn this f***ing skill...

The first time I made her c*m, I didn't even need to be under her pants - I was just rubbing her lips through her shorts. After that, I think she was much more comfortable letting my hands under her shorts. She was INCREDIBLY tight...I couldn't remember the last time I couldn't stick more than 1 finger inside, but that was the case here. She was VERY receptive to that...yet I still wasn't sure if she was going to be comfortable going all the way. That was until she, mid-fingering, said "just f*** me, please f*** me". So I pulled out 1 of the 2 condoms I had in my wallet, and that was that. She was super tight, which felt amazing, but combined with the fact that I was sober, it meant I really had to pace myself to last long. It didn't seem to matter, though, because she's been texting me, ranting and raving about it, wanting to see me again ever since.

The funny part about this is that the entire time I'm here, I'm juggling LR 100 girl because apparently she went out, got a little tipsy, and wanted to see me. Because after I finished the first round with this girl, I thought I would have to leave and rush over to see LR 100. I didn't think we would end up having sex tonight, and I knew she goes to bed early, so I hadn't initially planned to spend as much time with this girl as I did. Thankfully, that problem solved itself when LR 100 girl realized she was probably too drunk and that it might not be ideal for me to come over while she's like this, instead opting to get Papa John's and call it a night.

Now that I no longer felt I'd have to rush to leave, I relaxed with this girl for a bit. We ended up taking a shower together to clean off. I learned a bit about her family history and some of her negative experiences with her ex. She strikes me as somebody very similar to my BPD ex in a lot of ways; she had to take on a masculine role in a dysfunctional family, is the primary breadwinner for the people in her life, works in a male-dominated environment, etc. She was constantly referring to me as "baby", "papi", and "daddy". Judging from some of those observations, along with her texting style, and blaming her passionate personality on her being Latina, I do get the vibe that this girl might be a little crazy.

After the shower, we relax a little more and end up having sex again. Physically, she's in great shape for 38. She's small, has a great figure, and is very pretty. She has a couple of tattoos and is the first woman I'd been with (to my knowledge) who has gotten a breast REDUCTION. I noticed the scars and asked, assuming she had her boobs done before finding this out. She showed me pictures of them before, and while she is certainly attractive now, I definitely missed out a bit...

Not long afterwards, I decided it was best for me to head home. I hadn't expected to stay as late as I did, and I had work in the morning. She walks me down, kisses me goodbye, and makes sure I'm home safe before going to bed.

Since that night she has been texting me quite regularly (and lengthily) every day, often about how bad she wants to see me again and making remarks about how horny she is. She seems to have been extremely repressed after that long period of abstinence. So far, I have not made concrete plans to visit her again, though I'm certainly not opposed. I'm mostly concerned about her level of crazy. My brother recently visited and I showed him pictures of her and he made similar remarks - that she's very attractive but has "crazy eyes". So we'll see...

Like I said, this LR is less exciting (in my opinion) than my 100th, but here are what I would consider the key takeaways:

• Don't be weird. My investment level was rock bottom, and one of the things she appreciated about me was that I wasn't telling her everything she wanted to hear to get into her pants - over text, I was occasionally blunt and disagreeable. She found that refreshing.
• If you're going to use OLD, put some effort into your profile. I have the advantage of a modeling background. Although it didn't get me any work, I have pictures from my portfolio that are pretty representative of how I look now, so I just copied and pasted them. Use good pictures of yourself and don't overcommit or overshare in your bio. I still don't have my religion, politics, or birthsign listed on any of my dating app accounts - but I ALWAYS have height listed.
• Learn to finger. I don't know how many more examples I have to provide as to why this is a valuable skill...
• Have options. A major contributing factor to why this interaction went so well was that I didn't really care whether I met up with her or not. At the time, I was making out with a girl I met at Barstool for my birthday, and then later courting LR 100 girl by planning out dates. Always be meeting more women - probably 90% of the problems guys come here with are a result of fixating on 1 or 2 women they really want when they could be putting that time into meeting more women who want them.

I don't know how much value you guys get from reading these. I could post these more often when I sleep with someone new, if it acts as "inspiration" or a good guideline for how to behave around women for some less experienced guys. Let me know if you guys like reading these, want to read them more often, or don't really care.

Personally, I get tired of reading all the negative theorycrafting, "it's over", or "X reasons why Y sucks" posts, and figure some positive stories could help with morale. But what do I know?

Have a good night. I hope I don't reread this later on and get annoyed by typos I missed...

Definitely keep writing these. These FRs are awesome and even if it is just from online; you’re still taking action, getting laid, and simultaneously approaching(not using online as a crutch.)

 

[Sega Genesis]

@BPH how did her being so "easy" (which she was; I mean she literally threw herself at you requiring very little if any effort from you) impact your desire to continue seeing her? Even as a plate?

Did she leave a positive imprint in your mind? Or a more take it or leave it nonchalant attitude?

Just curious.

I think if this woman was/is seeking a relationship versus a casual FWB or plate, she did herself a real disservice by behaving the way that she did. Even assuming she was really into you!

I know you're not seeking a relationship, I'm wondering what she wants and how she's viewing what went down between you.

Did you talk about that at all?

P.S. From what you've written she does sound a bit nuts!

 

[SW15]

how did her being so "easy" (which she was; I mean she literally threw herself at you requiring very little if any effort from you) impact your desire to continue seeing her? Even as a plate?

For me, this does not have any impact on my desire to see a home. I have never had a woman invite me straight home for sex after starting the interaction from a tech method.

Did she leave a positive imprint in your mind? Or a more take it or leave it nonchalant attitude?

It would depend on the interaction itself and not the fastness of the sex.

Getting to sex fast is appealing for most men.

I think if this woman was/is seeking a relationship versus a casual FWB or plate, she did herself a real disservice by behaving the way that she did. Even assuming she was really into you!

That's a reasonable assessment.

One of my triple digit notch count friends had a scenario where he pulled a woman from a bar home for same night sex. He wanted more out of it. He assessed and later communicated to me that she had many qualities that would make for a high quality girlfriend. He wanted to continue the interaction but she decided that she didn't want to continue the interaction. It was her first one night stand and she felt guilty about it.

Had they not taken things so fast, I think they had some legitimate potential as a long term match.

They are both tall people and both were collegiate athletes. That's a great foundation for a relationship.

There is no doubt in my mind that this collegiate athlete from a one night stand was a superior choice for a girlfriend and even a wife than the wife that he has now.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Getting to sex fast is appealing for most men.

I wasn't questioning the fast sex.

If two people are out together for the first time, and effort is being made by each (in different ways) and a strong attraction develops, if they desire to have sex that same night, that is perfectly OK in my book.

It happens often and a long term relationship can develop from there in many cases. Or not which is fine too.

However in @BPH situation, she required literally nothing from him other than he simply show up! After which she led him to her bedroom..

There is a saying "we value the things (including people) we're required to work for a bit." By 'work' I mean put forth some effort!

Applies to both men and women.

I don't know of anyone who truly values something or someone that was handed to them on a silver platter.

Even those who won a huge lottery or family inheritance tend to squander it versus value it, invest it properly.

I dunno just thinking out loud today.

 

[BPH]

@BPH how did her being so "easy" (which she was; I mean she literally threw herself at you requiring very little if any effort from you) impact your desire to continue seeing her? Even as a plate?

Did she leave a positive imprint in your mind? Or a more take it or leave it nonchalant attitude?

Just curious.

I think if this woman was/is seeking a relationship versus a casual FWB or plate, she did herself a real disservice by behaving the way that she did. Even assuming she was really into you!

I know you're not seeking a relationship, I'm wondering what she wants and how she's viewing what went down between you.

Did you talk about that at all?

P.S. From what you've written she does sound a bit nuts!

Being easy doesn't really factor into my attraction level. Usually, it's a combination of how good the physical component (sex) is, and if they are pleasant to be around on the backend.

The girl with the cat that died, I slept with on the 2nd date, after getting a BJ from her by the end of the 1st. I had been seeing her for almost half a year, regularly, and would've continued seeing her had the issue with her cat not occurred.

My BPD ex, I slept with her the first night I met her, when she invited me over after conversing on Tinder for a while. She was wonderful...for a little while. My attraction to her never waned as a result of her "giving it up easily".

The problem I have with this girl is that she seems extremely clingy, has qualities that remind me of that ex, and the fact that she is Latina (infamous for being "passionate" in good and bad ways) has me proceeding with caution. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing her again, and probably will, at least a few times - but I'm much more attracted to the girl from LR 100 and would prefer to see her a few more times before she graduates and goes home to NY.

 

[BadBoy89]

Thanks for the field report.

But be careful, she is old at 38, and when a woman gives sex at 38, she won‘t let the man go.

 

[BPH]

Thanks for the field report.

But be careful, she is old at 38, and when a woman gives sex at 38, she won‘t let the man go.

Yeah...I'm realizing that...

She would be doing herself a massive favor by easing off the gas just a little bit. She just texted me about 15 minutes ago asking if I was sleeping, then again about 10 minutes ago saying "te extrano papi" or "I miss you daddy".

 

[SW15]

She would be doing herself a massive favor by easing off the gas just a little bit. She just texted me about 15 minutes ago asking if I was sleeping, then again about 10 minutes ago saying "te extrano papi" or "I miss you daddy".

She's really into you. Women do that when they perceive a guy is a hot alpha/sigma and/or they are aging.

 

[BPH]

She's really into you. Women do that when they perceive a guy is a hot alpha/sigma and/or they are aging.

I would owe it more to the fact that she's gone almost a year without sex and is finally letting all the repression out on me.

 

[SW15]

I would owe it more to the fact that she's gone almost a year without sex and is finally letting all the repression out on me.

That makes sense to me.

Is she socially awkward at all? Gen Z is more likely to go a year without sex than the older generations.

Gen Z Isn’t Having Sex – How This Affects You - Alpha Male 2.0

Reading Time – 8 minutes Most people have no idea how infrequent young people are having sex these days as compared to prior generations. My generation, Gen X, was having more sex than the Millennials when we were young, and I’ve commented on that fact...

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She's 38 and that makes her a Millennial and also on the older side for Millennials. She seems to be acting like a Generation Z woman.