"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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low IL to start off with. Is it even worth trying?

tosh

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Just wondering what the experts think of this.

If you get a number from a girl who has low IL, as I did tonight, do you even bother contacting her again.

You're probably thinking, how did you get the # of the girl if she has low IL. Well, basically I was more interesting than most of the guys there, conversation-wise so she decided to give it over, but I know for a fact she was eyeing and running after some of the other guys there, who she liked more physically.

Anyway, to make a long story short: Bin the number or use it in some way?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Warlord

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always assume interest, be persistant at first..chase a little, and if she starts becoming a lost cause. STOP. go do your own thing.
 

WORKEROUTER

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Hell ya dude.

Did the same thing a couple weeks ago. Chick gave me her number but not much IL. Ignored the broad, told her we'll go out, never did (flaked out and never called on the day), then she apparently got pissy about it and started pursuing me. Gonna go out with her this weekend.

But then there's the other broad with low initial IL who just doesn't seem to like me and doesn't care whether I call her or not.

All depends on the chick I guess.
 

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Any other opinions on what the best course of action is in these cases?
 

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Assume intrest. If when you ring her you still think there is no IL. Bin it. But make the call....you may aswell...Not got anything to loose
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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