"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Losing Track of Time during Sex?

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The other night after I had sex my girl passed out at 9:05pm.

I was trying to recall how long we had sex for, and could not. However, I remembered I had taken a photo immediately before - it was time stamped 7:25pm (I double checked the time zone).

I realized we had sex continuously for about 100 straight minutes but it seemed more like maybe 20 minutes - almost as if I fell asleep and woke up and lost track of time. No wonder why she said she was sore after only one time (I was actually about to continue when she passed out).

I remember years ago when a girl told me she came and I said "That was fast" and she said "What do you mean? You went for a long time" but it only seemed like a minute to me.

Has this ever happened to you? Did you ever lose track of time this way during sex? It might be worth noting the start and stop times next time as this might be common.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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bigneil said:
The other night after I had sex my girl passed out at 9:05pm.

I was trying to recall how long we had sex for, and could not. However, I remembered I had taken a photo immediately before - it was time stamped 7:25pm (I double checked the time zone).

I realized we had sex continuously for about 100 straight minutes but it seemed more like maybe 20 minutes - almost as if I fell asleep and woke up and lost track of time. No wonder why she said she was sore after only one time (I was actually about to continue when she passed out).

I remember years ago when a girl told me she came and I said "That was fast" and she said "What do you mean? You went for a long time" but it only seemed like a minute to me.

Has this ever happened to you? Did you ever lose track of time this way during sex? It might be worth noting the start and stop times next time as this might be common.
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... el oh el
 
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lol and everyone was supporting bigneil when i called for his ban. oh well. ive learned to accept him as he is now lol. no hate.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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This article refers to the "time dilation" effect, which can work both ways.

The average sex act lasts about 6 minutes. More than 30 minutes can be considered too long (but this girl had a river of juice flowing down her leg at the end, something I hadn't seen with her before).

Per this article, on average women want 7 more minutes of foreplay and 11 more minutes of sex than average.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/09/how-long-should-sex-actually-last.html
 
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bigneil said:
This article refers to the "time dilation" effect, which can work both ways.

The average sex act lasts about 6 minutes. More than 30 minutes can be considered too long (but this girl had a river of juice flowing down her leg at the end, something I hadn't seen with her before).

Per this article, on average women want 7 more minutes of foreplay and 11 more minutes of sex than average.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/09/how-long-should-sex-actually-last.html
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Thanks for the report Bigneil! Im going to set my alarms on my phone to make sure i hit that 7 extra minutes of foreplay mark. I think this study is really great and im sure they had some great data on timing peoples sex sessions!
 
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bigneil said:
The other night after I had sex my girl passed out at 9:05pm.

I was trying to recall how long we had sex for, and could not. However, I remembered I had taken a photo immediately before - it was time stamped 7:25pm (I double checked the time zone).

I realized we had sex continuously for about 100 straight minutes but it seemed more like maybe 20 minutes - almost as if I fell asleep and woke up and lost track of time. No wonder why she said she was sore after only one time (I was actually about to continue when she passed out).

I remember years ago when a girl told me she came and I said "That was fast" and she said "What do you mean? You went for a long time" but it only seemed like a minute to me.

Has this ever happened to you? Did you ever lose track of time this way during sex? It might be worth noting the start and stop times next time as this might be common.
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Story reads like a commercial of Alex Jones super male vitality horny goat weed.

Ever had so much sex you completely lost track of time?

Super Male Vitality horny goat weed!
 
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I did take Super Male Vitality from Infowars. This article talks about having sex for too long.
http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/
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Thanks for the report Bigneil! Im going to set my alarms on my phone to make sure i hit that 7 extra minutes of foreplay mark. I think this study is really great and im sure they had some great data on timing peoples sex sessions!
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I used to set my oven timer for 15 minutes when I went down on a bisexual girl back in 1993. I would wake up with a sore tongue the next morning.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Man you've got a lot of extra time on your hands for looking up random statistics
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Yes, at least 100 minutes. Some might consider the optimal amount of time to have sex to be important in seduction.

According to that article, I went long enough to make Kayne blush.

"Do you smoke after sex?"
"Sometimes, why?"
"Use more lubrication!"
 
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Yes, at least 100 minutes. Some might consider the optimal amount of time to have sex to be important in seduction.

According to that article, I went long enough to make Kayne blush.

"Do you smoke after sex?"
"Sometimes, why?"
"Use more lubrication!"
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Is Kanye West some stud or something?

I highly doubt that.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bigneil said:
The other night after I had sex my girl passed out at 9:05pm.

I was trying to recall how long we had sex for, and could not. However, I remembered I had taken a photo immediately before - it was time stamped 7:25pm (I double checked the time zone).

I realized we had sex continuously for about 100 straight minutes but it seemed more like maybe 20 minutes - almost as if I fell asleep and woke up and lost track of time. No wonder why she said she was sore after only one time (I was actually about to continue when she passed out).

I remember years ago when a girl told me she came and I said "That was fast" and she said "What do you mean? You went for a long time" but it only seemed like a minute to me.

Has this ever happened to you? Did you ever lose track of time this way during sex? It might be worth noting the start and stop times next time as this might be common.
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well i'm suprised, I though she would control the time more, maybe she really likes you
 
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What kind of pervert are you?
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LESSON 101...... BPD traits.

Redirect and distract, be dishonest and switch the attention to shame and blame the other..


This is without a doubt evidence this guy is a BPD.
 
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This is without a doubt evidence this guy is a BPD.
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Wow exhausted even accuses MEN who don't find him attractive as having BPD. Now I've seen it all.

What category of deviant do you put someone who makes arbitrary claims of child molestation by rounding age 22 down to age 15? Was that a Freudian slip?

@exhausted never got over his BPD ex (meanwhile I saw mine two days ago and she submitted, and I was never exhausted).

I'll let you get back to weeping.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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