"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
Warboss Alex will lead chat nights on sunday 11-25-07 at 5pm eastern/ 10pm uk
topic is general fitness.
drum & bass will lead chat nights on sunday 12-2-07 at 10 pm eastern topic is : confidence (this is the one you guys asked about virginity and desperation...)
topic is general fitness.
drum & bass will lead chat nights on sunday 12-2-07 at 10 pm eastern topic is : confidence (this is the one you guys asked about virginity and desperation...)
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penkitten
Master Don Juan
update: tonights sunday night chats will be led by last man standing at ten pm eastern time....
http://www.chatzy.com/122298398237
http://www.chatzy.com/122298398237
penkitten
Master Don Juan
penkitten said:
lms.. you stood me up dude!
catch you next time.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
sam, i didnt pay some nine dollar archieve fee so i cant get the entire thing, but last night i tried to be smart and save as much as i could as much as it would allow me to, pm me with your email addy and i will send what i have to yousam3083 said:
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I'm sorry about my non-presence - I unexpectedly went out of town - do you want to try again this Sunday night?penkitten said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
its ok we figured something came up.Last Man Standing said:
warboss alex has scheduled five pm eastern time or ten pm uk time for general fitness.
if you have time this sunday and want to come in after that, we can let everyone know and they will all come. they were really anticipating your chat last week.
next sunday drum & bass has one scheduled with the topic of confidence.
i have to go out of town this weekend, so the floor is all yours.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
come one, come all, come with pie to the chat room....
slitherjef
Senior Don Juan
anyone else wanna jump in and chat? I see a few names down at the bottom of this board...
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
Chat has started.
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
Bump
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Is there going to be another chat later on tonight?
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Haha, you bumped a sticky - nice!Quagmire911 said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
there are people in chat right now
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
tonight
drum & bass will lead chat nights on sunday 12-2-07 at 10 pm eastern topic is : confidence (this is the one you guys asked about virginity and desperation...)
drum & bass will lead chat nights on sunday 12-2-07 at 10 pm eastern topic is : confidence (this is the one you guys asked about virginity and desperation...)
penkitten
Master Don Juan
phyzzle will be leading chat topic
"reading the true interest level",
Saturday 12-8-07 at 7pm , EST.
he lives in New Zealand, so Sunday night is Monday during the work day.
"reading the true interest level",
Saturday 12-8-07 at 7pm , EST.
he lives in New Zealand, so Sunday night is Monday during the work day.
Chatzy for the fail!! Ah well, it was nice while it lasted, but I don't think you can depend on that page any more. I know it's not my connection, since every other page I go to still works fine.
I should still start an Interest Level Megathread, though.
I should still start an Interest Level Megathread, though.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
i cant even get in there either.Phyzzle said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.