That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
And lead the forum further to it's destruction? Of course. But I'm serious. If you do not go out, you have no right to hate or criticize someone who does go out or even goes out more than you. I see too much of this sh*t on here. It's like anyone who actually approaches is hated and anyone who doesn't approach is favorited. I thought I was on a seduction forum, but I may be wrong.eaglez1177 said:? Dude plz do us all a favor and get off these forums
I suspect people get sick of a doofus who is spectacularly unsuccessful at interacting with women and still refuses advice. But I could be wrong.ElStud said:If you don't approach and you hate on the people that do. Shame on you. You know who you are.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Yeah, cause everyone on this board knows everything. I don't think some of you guys get that just because you say something it's not true. You can talk all the crap about how I'm unsuccessful with women, but unlike you I'm approaching and improving my game everyday. I don't know what you call "success" but I call going out there constantly approaching and improving my game "successful".bigjohnson said:I suspect people get sick of a doofus who is spectacularly unsuccessful at interacting with women and still refuses advice. But I could be wrong.
Personally I'm getting laid a lot by some cute young girls. If you like wandering around malls though, more power to you. My biggest issue lately is a girl that is really stunning but who wants me to do some sort of freaky things to her.ElStud said:I don't know what you call "success" but I call going out there constantly approaching and improving my game "successful".
And while you have that one girl, I am approaching many a day. Difference between you and me is, you just want to get laid. My goals are bigger than that, I actually want to get to KNOW the girl I'm having sex with and I actually want to have FUN with the girl I'm having sex with. Genuine fun. Canned routines? If I'm gonna take you seriously, you need to stop pulling stuff out your ass.bigjohnson said:Personally I'm getting laid a lot by some cute young girls. If you like wandering around malls though, more power to you. My biggest issue lately is a girl that is really stunning but who wants me to do some sort of freaky things to her.
But maybe I should stop nailing her and go try some useless canned routines.![]()
Ya, while I'm eating steak you are free to walk around and smell food cooking at a variety of establishments. Wooooo.ElStud said:And while you have that one girl, I am approaching many a day.
I have a few (3 or 5 depending on your world view) in my life right now and you approach "many a day" AND you say you are the one getting to know them? What the hell sort of idiot thinking is that? The freaky girl and I spent 5 days together straight last month, but maybe I wasn't really 'having fun'.ElStud said:Difference between you and me is, you just want to get laid. My goals are bigger than that, I actually want to get to KNOW the girl I'm having sex with and I actually want to have FUN with the girl I'm having sex with.
How many did you close last, oh, say last YEAR? Results - remember?ElStud said:Funny you mention routines, cause that's probably what you do. What do I say "Hey" and I consistantly get girls wanting to talk to me.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Oh my lord. Im sure he knows the girl that hes have sex with due to the fact that he does so regularly. You havent even had sex so dont bring up anything about the issue. You make excuses constantly. You lose, done.ElStud said:And while you have that one girl, I am approaching many a day. Difference between you and me is, you just want to get laid. My goals are bigger than that, I actually want to get to KNOW the girl I'm having sex with and I actually want to have FUN with the girl I'm having sex with. Genuine fun. Canned routines? If I'm gonna take you seriously, you need to stop pulling stuff out your ass.
Brilliant come back...a come back of a genius. You ARENT successful, so why are you so bragadocious about approaching? Its not how you start, but how you finish, which you dont/ havent done....ever.Funny you mention routines, cause that's probably what you do. What do I say "Hey" and I consistantly get girls wanting to talk to me. But then again, words don't matter so your routines might work with your subcommunication. And f*ck if your subcommunication is good you can say damn near anything and get away with it.
His success rate is greater than yours, yet you have such an ego you have to chop him down to your level, which you failed at doing.And the other difference is, you get rejected, you probably analyze it, worry about and sh*t. I get rejected, doesn't mean sh*t to me and I move on to the next set.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
He's incredibly unsuccessful with women (no crime there) but then he posts how-to articles and rejects well meant, badly needed and VALID advice. That's just asinine.Drewskie said:Why does everyone hate on ElStud?? I haven't seen him post anything offensive or malicious, did i miss something?
You know bigjohnson, you suck. But I don't care what you think. You don't know sh*t about my success and I probably approach more than you therefore I am in the position to write an article on approaching. All this hate you guys have is unhealthy. Why don't you just freaking go out, stop hating on the dudes who ALREADY do sh*t and shut up. I got 2 numbers and approached probably 10+ sets today bigjohnson. What did you approach to be talking so much crap?bigjohnson said:He's incredibly unsuccessful with women (no crime there) but then he posts how-to articles and rejects well meant, badly needed and VALID advice. That's just asinine.
I don't hate him but it's sad and frustrating to see someone sabotage their own life so perfectly.
You're REALLY new to the whole seduction thing aren't you? The point of "PICK UP" is to "PICK UP" random girls. Friends, internet services and sh*t are what the average everyday chode uses.i dont know everyone has their own way of meeting girls...you dont have to go up to random strangers...thats one way i like to do it but other people gain success getting introduced through friends, using internet services, etc...
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.