Listen, if you don't approach.

[Mike32ct]

There are different schools of thought here at SS. That's probably the source of the conflict.

1. Approach as many girls and/or sets as possible.

2. Look for eye contact first, so you minimize the number of approaches you have to do in order to close.

3. Build an attractive lifestyle and let women come to you through your daily life and your social circle.


It sounds like El Stud likes #1.

I like #2 myself, but to each their own.

 

[Warrior74]

There are different schools of thought here at SS. That's probably the source of the conflict.

1. Approach as many girls and/or sets as possible.

2. Look for eye contact first, so you minimize the number of approaches you have to do in order to close.

3. Build an attractive lifestyle and let women come to you through your daily life and your social circle.


It sounds like El Stud likes #1.

I like #2 myself, but to each their own.

I like 2 and 3 myself.

 

[Smack]

There are different schools of thought here at SS. That's probably the source of the conflict.

1. Approach as many girls and/or sets as possible.

2. Look for eye contact first, so you minimize the number of approaches you have to do in order to close.

3. Build an attractive lifestyle and let women come to you through your daily life and your social circle.


It sounds like El Stud likes #1.

I like #2 myself, but to each their own.

Approach #1 seems mainly to be preached by the PUA crowd who seem to think this is just another PUA forum. I think the real message behind this forum is closer to approach #3.

Approach #2 is just common sense, really.

 

[daygameguy]

Approach #1 seems mainly to be preached by the PUA crowd who seem to think this is just another PUA forum. I think the real message behind this forum is closer to approach #3.

Approach #2 is just common sense, really.

PUAs are all about #3. PUA <> TV Show crap.

#3 is the most powerful way to play the game.

 

[Darth]

I think approaching as many women as possible is good as an exercise (I'm going to do it this spring), but not as a general lifestyle. Although I guess the point is that after doing all that approaching, if you see a girl in day-to-day life that you want to approach, you can do it with no hesitation.

But #3 seems like the best way to be.

 

[I'm Charming]

Elstud Bro, the real problem is that you don't have any frame control.

Dude, you've even got an entire internet forum to hate on you, and man, if you can't get respect over the internet then how are you going to get it in real life.

You can do a million approaches but as soon as a woman tests you with a neg over her own, or a denial, you go all crazy ass and sensitive.

I bet all your friends have picked up on this as well, a man that can't hold his frame and who fights, whines and complains like you are doing here is a man that gets treated poorly.

You're probably overanalyzing because you seek validation of your proposed worth, bro, you need to stop that because it will hurt your game, you want other people to acknowledge your worth when you won't even accept it in yourself man.

All this picking fights is strictly beta behaviour, same for all the people that have come here to hate, if the brother won't accept the reality in your words then its time to realise that he's not worth the effort, not sink more of your spare time into trying to break an already broken man.

 

[Vice]

I'd love for him to get on video/audio a few of his approaches.

 

[dbot]

#3 is NOT the most powerful. It's the flashiest and "coolest," and therefore good for TV. Many of the guys in the PUA community are looking for more than women. They want the VALIDATION more than they want the sex. Therefore that route is perfect for them. Kinda ironic how we break down female behavior to a science, then turn out to act just like them

I'm not saying that everyone who chooses this path is a validation whore (though I'm willing to bet a good portion of them are), but I know first hand that forming huge social circles is hardly necessary if you're just looking to meet women. So why bother?

 

[bigjohnson]

But #3 seems like the best way to be.

It's the best IMO. I can concentrate on being the best I can be and the rest just happens. No flailing around wasting time on endless 'sets'.

 

[daygameguy]

#3 is NOT the most powerful. It's the flashiest and "coolest," and therefore good for TV. Many of the guys in the PUA community are looking for more than women. They want the VALIDATION more than they want the sex. Therefore that route is perfect for them. Kinda ironic how we break down female behavior to a science, then turn out to act just like them

I'm not saying that everyone who chooses this path is a validation whore (though I'm willing to bet a good portion of them are), but I know first hand that forming huge social circles is hardly necessary if you're just looking to meet women. So why bother?

You have to draw the line where you feel your circle is big enough for yourself.

AFC Adam has videos of him rolling with 200 women. Now that's just crazy. But its cool.

For me, 5 close guy friends (with some game, some job, some looks), 10-15 close female friends (who like to party with me).