Lazy Method

[Juanto]

Does this work for you guys?

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[BraddH]

plz, I dont have 25 min. Can you summarise?

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Does this work for you guys?

This is not really a method. This is just a description of the guy we should strive to be. It's not lazy, it's just being natural, not thirsty.

plz, I dont have 25 min. Can you summarise?

Common sense.

-Take girls off the pedestal, don't over-complicate conversation, don't chase, be natural not pushy. Nothing too ground breaking.

The one thing is he says, that I am on board with and many aren't, is giving your number instead of taking numbers. The illusion of giving them the power.

 

[Juanto]

The one thing is he says, that I am on board with and many aren't, is giving your number instead of taking numbers. The illusion of giving them the power.

Precisely, this is the biggest difference with the way this guy proposes to do. Does it also work for you, Monkey King?

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Precisely, this is the biggest difference with the way this guy proposes to do. Does it also work for you, Monkey King?

Yes. A lot. I'd say I usually give my number.

 

[BraddH]

This is not really a method. This is just a description of the guy we should strive to be. It's not lazy, it's just being natural, not thirsty.



Common sense.

-Take girls off the pedestal, don't over-complicate conversation, don't chase, be natural not pushy. Nothing too ground breaking.

The one thing is he says, that I am on board with and many aren't, is giving your number instead of taking numbers. The illusion of giving them the power.

Remember that you are giving the woman value if you have to CONSCIOUSLY act these acts. It has to happen unconsciously, otherwise if you do it consciously then you are just pretending something you are not and it will backfire sooner or later.

 

[Juanto]

Yes. A lot. I'd say I usually give my number.

This is very interesting. Counter intuitive to what most guys are doing now (collecting numbers) but if it works, it works.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

This is very interesting. Counter intuitive to what most guys are doing now (collecting numbers) but if it works, it works.

I've been saying it for a long time. Among others, I see two primary benefits to giving your number instead of taking numbers:

-The psychological impact on the girl when you walk away, possibly never to see her again (for all you know), unless she contacts you. This shows you have balls, are not in a state of lack and are perfectly happy whether she gets in touch or not. A demonstration of your value.

-It forces the girl's hand either way. If she's not interested, she'll not use your number and you won't have wasted anything on a low-interest bird. If she's interested, she'll be in touch and it's basically yours to lose from then on.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is not really a method. This is just a description of the guy we should strive to be. It's not lazy, it's just being natural, not thirsty.



Common sense.

-Take girls off the pedestal, don't over-complicate conversation, don't chase, be natural not pushy. Nothing too ground breaking.

The one thing is he says, that I am on board with and many aren't, is giving your number instead of taking numbers. The illusion of giving them the power.

Something I realized from my situation last night is that you have to be willing to go against everything that you are "supposed" to do at times and be fluid when situations call for it...led to a first date lay by me meeting up with a chick last night kind of impromptu...instead of overthinking things and maintaining frame and all this other stuff, I simply went with my instinct that it was a chance to get laid and I took it.

I was right. I tore her up for 2 hours after we hung out for a couple hours.


Realizing that "rules" are not meant to always be hard and strict but merely guidelines that help when followed in the proper context is what a lot of people struggle with until they've gotten to a certain point. Following strict rules in the wrong context have probably cost these people multiple lays over the past year when being more fluid would have gotten them a better result.

 

[NSX-R]

Have you guys field tested and saw any result ?( I'm talking about giving your number )
Personaly i have never done it to know how it went.

 

[Thechamp]

Why don't we make a thread reverse game and test it out , see what results we get ?

 

[NSX-R]

Why don't we make a thread reverse game and test it out , see what results we get ?

I'll definitely try it out. I plan to do some day game and night club approach and this thread gave some ideas to experiment with. Expect some FRs coming soon.

 

[Juanto]

Great idea, lets post our results here on the forum and see how it goes

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

"rules" are not meant to always be hard and strict but merely guidelines

Couldn't agree more. It's good to stick to some hard and fast theory to start with in order to build up confidence and to see what works and what doesn't. Over time though it becomes more of a state of mind, like a second nature.

Remember that you are giving the woman value if you have to CONSCIOUSLY act these acts. It has to happen unconsciously, otherwise if you do it consciously then you are just pretending something you are not and it will backfire sooner or later.

I don't believe in pretending to be something you're not, nor changing who you are to fit someone's expectation. That's precisely what orbiters do - hanging round with a girl, under the pretense of being 'friends', expecting to get laid.

We do have to change our behaviours. I don't see that as pretending, but learning.

 

[BraddH]

Couldn't agree more. It's good to stick to some hard and fast theory to start with in order to build up confidence and to see what works and what doesn't. Over time though it becomes more of a state of mind, like a second nature.



I don't believe in pretending to be something you're not, nor changing who you are to fit someone's expectation. That's precisely what orbiters do - hanging round with a girl, under the pretense of being 'friends', expecting to get laid.

We do have to change our behaviours. I don't see that as pretending, but learning.

You are just doing the opposite, the other side of the coin. But you are still DOING the same thing as beta orbiters do.

Beta and alpha are just two sides of the same coin.

To become a superalpha, you have to go beyond both of these.

If you want to know how, I will tell ya.

 

[blind_one]

If there is attraction you can do either way, she either likes your pics and decides to chat or she does not. IF she wants to cooperate sh will regardless if you give her your number or she gives up hers

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

But you are still DOING the same thing as beta orbiters do.

Well, technically not. If I was doing the same thing orbiters do, I'd not be getting laid.

I think what you mean is that I alter myself or my behaviour to achieve what I want; as do beta orbiters. The difference being that my behaviours serve me primarily, and my attractiveness to females secondarily. Whereas orbiters and providers serve only the needs of females, assuming it will get them laid.

Mate competition and reproductive strategy is observed through out nature, so I'm not sure what other theory you have. But I would genuinely be interested to hear.

 

[BraddH]

Well, technically not. If I was doing the same thing orbiters do, I'd not be getting laid.

I think what you mean is that I alter myself or my behaviour to achieve what I want; as do beta orbiters. The difference being that my behaviours serve me primarily, and my attractiveness to females secondarily. Whereas orbiters and providers serve only the needs of females, assuming it will get them laid.

Mate competition and reproductive strategy is observed through out nature, so I'm not sure what other theory you have. But I would genuinely be interested to hear.

Yes, to be honest. You are simply hiding your beta side by CONSCIOUSLY acting alpha.

People turn from nice to jerk, from jerk to nice, but they never find the middle path, the balance.

I am not for beta nor alpha. I am for super-alpha.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Yes, to be honest. You are simply hiding your beta side by CONSCIOUSLY acting alpha.

People turn from nice to jerk, from jerk to nice, but they never find the middle path, the balance.

I am not for beta nor alpha. I am for super-alpha.

This is why at the top of the thread I say that the behaviours and philosophies need to go beyond a conscious act and become subconscious aspirations. You're not 'hiding a beta' any more; you a being an alpha.

Here's Heartiste's defnition of SuperAlpha; what's yours?

Super Alpha
Average VAS of women = 9,10
# of women = Limitless
Multiple long and short term relationships, flings,
and one night stands; orgies;
crazed stalker love; women
willing to do anal at hello;
maintains de facto harem;
never cheated on, never dumped;
hires contraceptive assistant to
make sure his condoms don’t
have holes punched in them

 

[BraddH]

This is why at the top of the thread I say that the behaviours and philosophies need to go beyond a conscious act and become subconscious aspirations. You're not 'hiding a beta' any more; you a being an alpha.

Here's Heartiste's defnition of SuperAlpha; what's yours?

Super Alpha
Average VAS of women = 9,10
# of women = Limitless
Multiple long and short term relationships, flings,
and one night stands; orgies;
crazed stalker love; women
willing to do anal at hello;
maintains de facto harem;
never cheated on, never dumped;
hires contraceptive assistant to
make sure his condoms don’t
have holes punched in them

To me a super alpha is in one term: spontaneous.

He lives a passionless passion life, he lives fearlessly fearful life. He accepts both night and day, he even plans spontaneously!

Do you get what I am trying to say here?