“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Sega Genesis

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I’ve had sex in cars dozens of times. I don’t think that’s a good barometer.
Under what circumstances? Initial approach or first meet? Or a woman you were in a relationship with?

In an earlier post, you called her a "wh0re." And that she was DTF before she even opened the app.

What did you base that assessment on?
 
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Fair point about the 10 and 12 year-olds... but guys the car? Really?

I made a post earlier but deleted it as I thought it sounded judgy. But from the sound of things, girl was thirsty for the d***, @Rainman4707 offered and she got her validation fix. In the car.

Not to discount @Rainman4707 appeal but where's the Game?
Yeah, sometimes things just fall into your lap.

I don't know why it matters that they had sex in the car as opposed to his or her place (or a hotel). What's the difference?
 

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Under what circumstances? Initial approach or first meet? Or a woman you were in a relationship with?

In an earlier post, you called her a "wh0re." And that she was DTF before she even opened the app.

What did you base that assessment on?
That she abandoned her children and had sex in the back of his car in under an hour.
 

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As far as game, I'm not sure what people are expecting. He recognized high interest, led, capitalized on it
That’s basically what I was saying.
People sometimes write about ‘seduction’ like it’s some mystical, almost fictional thing. Like something out of 19th-century literature or Marquis de Sade or something where the hideous old man can talk a very uninterested gorgeous young woman into attraction purely through poetry, charm, or cleverness. When in reality, even with infield footage from 'pros', they 'seduce' girls who essentially already want them. When they approach a girl who is cold, it goes in their 'rejection compilation' albums, despite their best efforts. In reality, we are all really just leading attracted girls into doing what they want to do. I think we sometimes pat ourselves on the back too much for getting laid lol.
 
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Yeah, sometimes things just fall into your lap.

I don't know why it matters that they had sex in the car as opposed to his or her place (or a hotel). What's the difference?
From a moral standpoint I agree no difference.

I was viewing it as more about respect especially considering this was a first meet.

But hey, if she was cool with it and didn't feel disrespected or cheapened more power to her.
 
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From a moral standpoint I agree no difference.

I was viewing it as more about respect especially considering this was a first meet.

But hey, if she was cool with it and didn't feel disrespected or cheap more power to her.
Though I'm getting better at it with age, I don't think I will ever truly understand female logic. Women love being called a "dirty wh0re" during sex. And yet having sex in a car (which seems like the perfect place for fvcking a dirty wh0re) is somehow disrespectful?
 

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Though I'm getting better at it with age, I don't think I will ever truly understand female logic. Women love being called a "dirty wh0re" during sex. And yet having sex in a car (which seems like a perfect place for fvcking a dirty wh0re) is somehow disrespectful?
Lol I honestly don't even know how to respond except to say being called a "dirty wh0re" while having sex with a man I'm dating or in a relationship with and trust is a lot different from being f*cked by a total stranger from an app in the backseat of his car during a first meet.

Did this even need explaining?
 
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Lol I honestly don't even know how to respond except to say being called a "dirty wh0re" while having sex with a man I'm dating or in a relationship with and trust is a lot different from being f*cked by a total stranger from an app in the backseat of his car during a first meet.
I would say that being called a "dirty wh0re" by someone you love and trust is actually much worse than being called that by a total stranger. But I understand that women are "different" and that one shouldn't try to view their wants and desires through the lens of reason and logic.

The point that you seem to be missing is that it doesn't matter if your first day sex happens in the back of a 1998 Hyundai Elantra or in the presidential suit of a Four Seasons hotel. You are no less of a wh0re because they guy spent more money to get laid. In fact, you are arguably more of a wh0re in the latter case (think about it).
 

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The point that you seem to be missing is that it doesn't matter if your first day sex happens in the back of a 1998 Hyundai Elantra or in the presidential suit of a Four Seasons hotel. You are no less of a wh0re because they guy spent more money to get laid. In fact, you are arguably more of a wh0re in the latter case (think about it).
OK this^^ is a fair point (after thinking about it logically). I see it.

Course there are always exceptions to the first-day sex "wh0re" rule... but don't think this situation was one of them based on what @Rainman4707 posted

For example @BPH has posted many first-day lay reports ... wouid all those women be considered wh0res?

Especially in cases wherein they continue seeing each other? Sometimes leading to a relationship?

I dunno just thinking out loud. Lol
 
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For example @BPH has posted many first-day lay reports ... wouid all those women be considered wh0res?

Especially in cases wherein they continue seeing each other? Sometimes leading to a relationship?

I dunno just thinking out loud. Lol
It seems this thread has gone in an interesting direction :rofl:

If someone thinks a woman is a wh*re because I sleep with her on the first date, that's their problem. She had a great time, I had a great time, and in many scenarios, we continue to have great times (the girl from the LR before this most recent one is going to be in Baltimore tomorrow and booked a room for me to visit, for example).

I think it's a bit disappointing how some users have viewed this report...

If he DOESN'T sleep with her on the first date, he did something wrong.

But if she DOES sleep with him on the first date, she did something wrong...and is a wh*re...and OP did nothing right - she was just "easy".

Intimacy is something we all want, so I don't get why achieving that goal requires one to be a "loser", rather than both be "winners".
 

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as Mark Manson says, game is played on the 'yes girls' lol. Whether it's cold approach or tinder or whatever else. Ain't nobody out there jedi mind tricking girls who aren't attracted into wanting them. Even with the 'coaches' who claim this mystical ability, their own infields prove otherwise and contradict them. We give the word 'seduction' too much credit lol
And at some point if you have no standards, you'll just stick your d!ck in anything that moves.

And the sad part is, too many guys have no standards of behavior for themselves. In a lot of areas of life, not just with women.

And the standards shouldn't be because of what others think, it should be because of what YOU think.
 
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That she abandoned her children and had sex in the back of his car in under an hour.
I don't completely disagree. At the same time, that's hardly his fault. We each make our decisions and both of them were consenting adults. I do have morals as well, but they aren't his morals. Even if I know something to be true and can do/say something about it, sometimes I just don't want to try to save the world.
 

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@BPH jmo but I don't think your experiences can be fairly compared to this one. They both resulted in having sex, but getting there was completely different in my view.

I have already given my opinion as to why, so nuff said from me.

We can agree to disagree.
 
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Just going to leave this here

 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I can definatley see where @BackInTheGame78 is coming from.
It was a spur of the moment thing (nearly typed thong there, must still have that on my mind 'cold sweat, wipe brow') as i finished watching footy, my subconscious was telling me ' dont go and fu&k another easy slag on an app, its seedy and you are much better than this', however my thinking was 'im over in her area, i will just go see her in person (out of curiosity) this is still dangerous though, letting her get in my car, when i dont even know her, she is easy makes me think she could be trouble, but anyway i went through with it. I suppose part of me is happy i went through it because of how sexy she is IRL and i really enjoyed her company and i enjoyed the sex (could also be a potential *** dumpster for me, because i dont fap)

Side note :- she may be riding the carousel because her 15 year LTR left her for another man last month :eek:
 
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I mean, do you want feedback? There's not really much to nitpick here.



This is probably the only "fault" I could find, because I'd have just searched bars in the area near her and picked one, rather than ask her and let her lead.

Otherwise, she was interested enough to get done up for a total stranger, leave her kids at home, kiss you in a public bar, and then f*** you in a car, so it's just recognizing that she was high-interest, and capitalizing on that.

Well done.

I'm not aware of your situation, so are you living at home with family as well, and that's why you couldn't take her to yours, since hers wasn't an option?
It was late and i lived 40 mins drive away. I have my own place.
 

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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