"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Landed her number - what next?

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Ive recently been on a new trend of only talking to complete dimes -- pushed my old roster of girls to the side.

So was out with a buddy at upscale bar and a waitress who wasnt supposed to attend us or take our order strikes up conversation with me

Gave her some feedback then ordered a drink -- fair enough maybe thats what she wants lol, then give my attention back to my friend

After her coming back once or twice we talk some more and i really strike her interest had a cool convo played it smooth

Told her to bring me the bill she said dont worry about it (we had 6 drinks total lol and offers one more) I said sure.

I then told her id like to leave with her # so told her be creative and find a way to get it to me -- she left me a note with her # touched my shoulder and whispered nice meeting you

Again the drinks were free lol so ill assume its not a tip tactic

Regardless that was the previous Friday

Wanted to reach out to her -- any tips or suggestions?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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stringpuller said:
The way that went down i think you got this one bro. She wants the diddley...
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Haha. Well like I said she was a dime, not that i care too much but trying to build my new roster of complete 10s

My ordinary follow up call or text of nice meeting you - to lets grab a drink could possibly work

Just would like to elevate my game some more open to new suggestions
 
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djthiago1 said:
This is the part where you go out with her.
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Lol Im aware.

Maybe I should have clarified Id like to elevate my game so more -- i cant keep my same system -- have to grow and incorporate others help as well

Sometimes with this forum people are pretty negative when someone is using it as a learning platform lol
 
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jdamack said:
Haha. Well like I said she was a dime, not that i care too much but trying to build my new roster of complete 10s

My ordinary follow up call or text of nice meeting you - to lets grab a drink could possibly work

Just would like to elevate my game some more open to new suggestions
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This ^^^^^^^

Whether she is a 7 or 10, the game is still the same.

"Nice meeting you the other night. Lets grab a drink and this time I will actually pay....unless you insist that I dont again ;). What evening works best for you?"

Easy peasy.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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stringpuller said:
We dont let that bother us.
I dont know man that was pretty tight. I think the next step is to meet up with her. She felt a strong attraction for you i think you got this.
As far as learning? If your not invested in being with her. Throw somthing at her you always questioned about game. See what happens.
Its not my thing. I try to stay in what im feeling. I just cancelled on a girl for sex tonight and she not a happy camper.
I really wasnt feeling to so i really dont give a fuk.
My son wants to drink beer. And a buddy is bringing a chainsaw over to take out a cpl trees. What could be better then beer chainsaw and a few bad azz dudes lol
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Haha i like your style man

Never respected dudes who can toss away plans just for some sex; the plans you chose sound like the real deal. The girl will be there another day

As for the girl i met; id like to see where it can go so might now go too far off track, but just wanted some opinion -- but yea i figured it was a lock but you never know after a few days have to come back and mind **** her again lol
 
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Glassguy said:
This ^^^^^^^

Whether she is a 7 or 10, the game is still the same.

"Nice meeting you the other night. Lets grab a drink and this time I will actually pay....unless you insist that I dont again ;). What evening works best for you?"

Easy peasy.
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100% right -- should be treating it the same, maybe overthinking a bit which is throwing me off
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Getting a number used to be like a 75% chance that you'd get the date.

Nowadays it's more like 10%...it means not quite next to nothing, but pretty close to it.

Do not assume just cause you have the number it's a sure thing.

What to do from here? Simple, text her a few times and then ask her out in the 3rd or 4th text.
 
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