obti
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I know this girl likes me and we went on a date last week however i didn't feel a moment when it felt right to kiss her. This worries me.
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Kissing on the first date
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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You didn't feel like kissing her or you couldn't find the right moment to kiss her?
Sean Stock
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You always kiss the first date or your ****ed. You were just nervous. The moment existed there more than once.
Francisco d'Anconia
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You should be more concerned about whether there will be another date where you could have another chance.obti said:I know this girl likes me and we went on a date last week however i didn't feel a moment when it felt right to kiss her. This worries me.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I went on a date with a chick like 4 months ago, and everything really good. I could see that she was interested in me, we had a lot of fun, and at the end of the night i went for the kiss close. She turned her head and said that she didnt kiss on the first date. Now im 27 and she is 24 and I said to her "what, are we in the 7th grade?" so yeah, she never called me after that, and when i would see her at the gym (where i met her), and at bars, she would act like i was the biggest a$shole on the planet.
But I always try to kiss close on the first date, and succeed 95% of the time. This was a first for me where the chick told me she didnt kiss on the first date, because in the back of my mind, Ive F closed on the first date and this chick must be a prude or something.
But I always try to kiss close on the first date, and succeed 95% of the time. This was a first for me where the chick told me she didnt kiss on the first date, because in the back of my mind, Ive F closed on the first date and this chick must be a prude or something.
you don't have to kiss on the first date. Imo, it's better not to, but it depends on what you're looking for and how horish the girl is.
If you've done things correctly, your first date should be an inexpensive 45 minutes at a coffee shop, in which case a kiss would probably be awkward anyway.
If you've done things correctly, your first date should be an inexpensive 45 minutes at a coffee shop, in which case a kiss would probably be awkward anyway.
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Don't look for the right moment. Create it.
Monkey
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If shes all over you, DON'T kiss her - it'll drive her completely insane and set you apart from all the other guys.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
It's easy when you are in one of those dark, eclectic, independent shops. I'd avoid Starbucks.The Loacker said:Yeah I prefer coffee shops for first dates, so a kiss doesn't really fit. You could do it if you really wanted to, I guess.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.