obti
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I know this girl likes me and we went on a date last week however i didn't feel a moment when it felt right to kiss her. This worries me.
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Kissing on the first date
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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You didn't feel like kissing her or you couldn't find the right moment to kiss her?
Sean Stock
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You always kiss the first date or your ****ed. You were just nervous. The moment existed there more than once.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You should be more concerned about whether there will be another date where you could have another chance.obti said:I know this girl likes me and we went on a date last week however i didn't feel a moment when it felt right to kiss her. This worries me.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I went on a date with a chick like 4 months ago, and everything really good. I could see that she was interested in me, we had a lot of fun, and at the end of the night i went for the kiss close. She turned her head and said that she didnt kiss on the first date. Now im 27 and she is 24 and I said to her "what, are we in the 7th grade?" so yeah, she never called me after that, and when i would see her at the gym (where i met her), and at bars, she would act like i was the biggest a$shole on the planet.
But I always try to kiss close on the first date, and succeed 95% of the time. This was a first for me where the chick told me she didnt kiss on the first date, because in the back of my mind, Ive F closed on the first date and this chick must be a prude or something.
But I always try to kiss close on the first date, and succeed 95% of the time. This was a first for me where the chick told me she didnt kiss on the first date, because in the back of my mind, Ive F closed on the first date and this chick must be a prude or something.
you don't have to kiss on the first date. Imo, it's better not to, but it depends on what you're looking for and how horish the girl is.
If you've done things correctly, your first date should be an inexpensive 45 minutes at a coffee shop, in which case a kiss would probably be awkward anyway.
If you've done things correctly, your first date should be an inexpensive 45 minutes at a coffee shop, in which case a kiss would probably be awkward anyway.
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Don't look for the right moment. Create it.
Monkey
Master Don Juan
If shes all over you, DON'T kiss her - it'll drive her completely insane and set you apart from all the other guys.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
It's easy when you are in one of those dark, eclectic, independent shops. I'd avoid Starbucks.The Loacker said:Yeah I prefer coffee shops for first dates, so a kiss doesn't really fit. You could do it if you really wanted to, I guess.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.